Cats already have a -threat modifier. I can't remember what the exact value is though.

Edit: Quick browse has put the value at x0.71

A) If you feel the amount of tanking gear available early in WotLK isn't sufficient, report that feedback.
B) Stop the QQ about not seeing any bear itemization. It doesn't matter one bit once we hit 80. Itemization at 80 is what matters. If we get there and there's no good gear, then we can report that feedback. Until then, keep your QQs to yourself.

Does anyone else think that ILOTP should be changed to 50/100% chance to heal for 4% rather than its current form of 100% chance to heal for 2/4% ? All of the new moonkin talents as well as Infected wounds are formed in such a way that it allows you to put a minimal number of points into them but still get "full" effect. (Mainly due to ICDs)

Yes, later today when I was playing with trees I wanted to cut out one point from iLOTP to see that that would be useless.

Astrylian is probably right that QQing here (in these Forums) makes no sense but looking at Armor - Items - World of Warcraft and comparing that to official Blizzard quotes reveals Blizzards will to introduce more Strength (mainly to have all Tanking classes doing more Damage Per Threat) - There is no reason to let tanking Bears do more damage as in late TBC (relativly to DPS classes). The problem arises when we do insane damage in Bear Form (nerf crys like in early TBC anyone?) and at the same time have low mitigation (because ALL other classes scale with Strength, Defense, Block Rating, Block Value and Parry).

Now do you think Blizzard will introduce items just for Bears (and NOT for 3 other Tanks)? I do not think so. We have to live with choppy itemization, rare single drops that last forever (like in TBC) cause there is nothing better to upgrade to (like in TBC):

OR, we get STR to be an integral part of tanking. That would be in line with out T6 Itemization anyway and would be a good step. Ideas are probably to add parry or to let strength multiply our HP a bit, I cannot think about much else without upping our damage (which is not required)

So, if I was in beta, I would report on that issue all time, and you should do so too: thats about all the QQ that is important, just whining does not help.

Wish I had a beta account

Less avoidance is a good thing so long as all the tanking classes have similar amounts. Nothing sucks more as a tank than having a 2.5 attack speed and dodging 6 attacks in a row in a 5man.

The majority of the threat from Lacerate is hidden (ie: not caused by damage) like Sunder Armor. I am guessing that this Idol is an insignificant threat increase.

Edit: People on the beta should be raising hell about Lacerate; its laughable that Swipe generates more threat per GCD than our "threat move."

WOTLK Idols: Idols - Items - World of Warcraft

ionasej - several beta testers have brought this point up about str being too 1 dimensional for bears.

Make FFF trainable since its next to useless if you have a moonkin in your group anyways, put parry based off strength in its place. Adjust dodge mechanics as necessary to keep total avoidance the same. Makes feral druids share tanking rings/necks w/ DKs, which in turn reduces item bloat.

Letting strength increase our armor would be an elegant solution to the problem. We retain the "high physical mitigation" tank spot, it doesn't require our gear to have extra armor on it and it allows us to scale based on str like the other tanks seem to be doing. If they made rogue's gain 2 ap per Str our tanking gear could conceivably be the same as our dps gear (though its unclear if they want this or not).

With the change to SoF and the removal of crushing blows from bosses, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Blizzard is moving to a model where a bear tank has similar AC, stamina, and avoidance numbers compared to the other tanking classes. Since Blizzard is designing towards shared gear, I'd imagine that our base armor would be shared with rogues(and therefore not having bonus armor like current feral pieces do), and our jewelry and trinkets would be shared with Death Knights. Looking at the itemization formulas, leather armor scales at 2.22*ilvl+10 while plate armor scales at 9*ilvl+23. The 5x multiplier in bear form clearly makes bear AC scale better than that of plate, and the AC multiplier from rings+trinkets+neck+weapon should offset that of a shield. Being comprable tanks while not being at the AC cap does have some advantages in being able to get the effect of inspiration and ironshield pots(though only one per fight now).

And get rid of the really annoying and - in my opinion - useless armor cap while they are at it.

With primal precision and gems having expertise I suspect that hitting the expertise cap is going to be easy. With rogue's itemization the way it is currently, hitting the hit cap will be easy as well. Leaving...strength, which exists on no leather items in WotLK as it stands.

I agree, astrylian, that the problem is end-game bear itemization. However, you'll forgive me if the biggest problem for bears in TBC not being addressed at all in WotLK is somewhat concerning for me. As an example of what kind of thing we'll be looking at, if you take every possible top-tier rogue upgrade from sunwell/T6 in all the leather slots which does not have extra armor, and all the best armor items in all the slots that have been shown to have additional armor (so weapon, amulet, trinketx2, ringx2, cloak) you have a total of 28.4k armor. That's with the top tier items, mind you; having lower tier everything would lower this significantly. So the best you can hope for is being 7k short of the armor cap. If this is the pattern of itemization, it would be a significant blow to druid tanking relative to other classes in terms of mitigation, especially without a significant improvement to threat.

As far as reporting it now, from the reports I've seen in the beta forums bears are having a very hard time holding aggro relative to other tanks and relative to what they're used to, and they're taking more damage as well. So there is something to complain about right now, if you'd like to.