Anyone know (or can test on beta) if Savage Roar stay there when you change to bear?

The text don't states anything against this and it would be very fun for emergency tanking threat and PvP.

Regarding shifting costs, maybe they could bring back the old-school Swiftshifting.

For those that don't remember, the old version of Natural Shapeshifter (back when it used to be in the balance tree) was:
They could change the talent back, or make it a set bonus/glyph/idol.

Just looking over how INT affects my mana currently, I've noticed that my gear provides 3240/7460 of my unbuffed mana, or 43.4% and about 60 mana/5 (138 w/ gear and 78 w/out, granted I have all stat enchants to rings, chest, bracers which add additional spirit).

So if I were to try and shift whenever I had the mana to, without the INT on my gear, with 3/3 natural shapeshifter, I could shift 7 times and would have to wait about 42 sec to perform each consecutive shift. Putting gear back on, I could shift 12 times and would wait 26 sec in between subsequent shifts. With 0/3 natural shapeshifter it would look like 5 shifts and 58 sec wait periods without INT gear, and 8 shifts and 36 sec wait periods with gear.

Outside of powershifting, pvp, and possibly pve encounters involving lots of snaring or long durations of no melee opportunity (like felmyst air phase), druids probably don't shift or use spells enough to worry too much about mana. Currently, with blessing of kings and wisdom, MotW, AI, divine spirit, and possibly totems (do mana spring/tide actually affect mana in forms?), powershifting 1-2 times every 12 sec is hardly taxing on mana. I wonder though, with the reduction of our mana pool and regen from lack of INT on gear in the expansion, will the increased efficacy of raid buffs still allow us to maintain something like 3 powershifts per 16 sec (5 sec rule may add even more restriction here considering ferals have no I5SR regen)? Would Blizzard even consider it to be more than a trivial matter? And where would it leave feral pvp if mana becomes much more restrictive?

Considering with only base mana and base INT, HotW provides about a 8.6% boost to overall mana pool at 70, it may make more sense to change the talent to be providing mana regen instead, based off a stat we naturally look for and is readily available from gear. 20% stam => mana/5 for example in my current gear would give me 167 mana/5. This would give us scaling mana regen without having to go out of our way to gear for, since intensity being based off int/spirit isn't of too much use to us. I suppose this could give rise to some monstrous 0/30/41 feral/resto hybrid with infinite mana, though doing something like having the mana regen only apply in bear/cat can force deciding between mana regen and healing. I'm not sure how this balances out against the mana restoration capabilities of enh shaman and ret paladins in beta, but obviously numbers can be adjusted for parity.

I wouldn't say this is the absolute best way to approach fixing mana regen as there are a multitude of ways to approach the issue of mana, but the most apparent change needed would be with respect to the INT portion of HotW having no itemization to scale off of in the expansion.

1.1*1.2*1.15*2.5 = 3.795
That is a very good AP multiplier. It's almost exactly the same as Mortal Strike including Imp. MS and 2H weapon spec or Crusader Strike with 2h weapon spec. However, I think that this is kind of required as we have bad AP scaling on all our other threat abilities.

Has anybody tested if the 1.3 threat multiplier on Mangle(Bear) still is there, despite the large damage boost it has recieved? I don't seem to recall anybody adressing it in this thread.