Currently it seems to be neither. The talent does nothing for the aura.

While the change to allow HT to tree form is probably overdue in some cases, I don't think it'll alter the primary 'style' for druid healing in any real way except for opening up another tool for druids to use without an arbitrary restriction such as shift costs when we're already battling against a strict timer.

That said, it opens up Nourish for use within Tree Form and I also strongly suspect that's going to be our 'filler' ability while we're waiting to refresh the HoT stacks and lets us cover raid healing duties while maintaining our speciality due to GotEM. HT is just simply too slow without any talented reductions much the same way GHeal used to be too slow before Blizzard hacked off 0.5 sec off the base and added another 0.5sec reduction via talents so it can only really be used when you can predict a damage spike or need to layer the HPS, which Nourish will supersede on the second front with its faster cast time and synergy with active HoTs.

Because of GotEM and Living Seed, I have the strong suspicion that we'll be looking at singular tanking with Nourish spamming as a standard to free up other healers or dual tanks and spot heal assistance but that's pure crystal ball speculation.

I've personally tested healing on Priest/Druid/Shaman on beta, and I've spoken to 2 of the pallies from my raid about their changes, too.

While moving HT to Tree form does open it up to be used more flexibly, I believe it will still seldom be used than more for NS+HT or topping off people who got rezzed.

Something to consider, with respect to balance with the tools other healers will have, is that while HT has the potential for the highest output from a single cast, that other classes will be casting their comparatively large heals much faster. Druids have far less haste mechanics than other classes.

The Pallies weren't able to comment on their haste from judging talent, as it wasn't working on beta yet. However, Holy Concentration procs for Priests bring Gheal down to a 1 sec cast. (My Priest in beta, with a whole 31 spell haste was cracking them out at .98 sec, Flash heal at .598) With a 16% chance to proc Holy Conc, and multiple charges of the haste effect, the Priests have done math that shows they will have fairly high uptime of Holy Conc haste. Shaman get haste on LHW/HW every time they cast a chain heal, and while it still stands to be tested if it's worthwhile to spam Chain Heal, or to mix their spell use more, our chain healing brethren will be better equipped to crank out a big heal, faster, and a fast heal faster. I unfortunately didn't look at tooltips to get exact numbers on cast times, and I am now enjoying a client crash that prevents me from logging on to beta.

Adding Nourish gives us more options, and will give us much more flexibility in smaller raids/parties, but overall I think our playstyle will remain fairly similar to it is now, in that our HoTs are our maintstays and what we specialize in to bring value to the raid, and our direct heals will be slower on average than the other healing classes making them more desirable to raid heal, and lay out healing on tank spikes.


Completely unrelated to direct healing comparisons, even Rank 1 Flourish was very powerful on beta, and even after the base healing reduction, once we can use Rank 3/4, it will still be a very powerful spell we'll want to have up most of the time, in just about any content size.

Up to now flourish didn't recieve any changes to it's base healing. It's still at 1610.
The 672 was outdated information on the talentcalculator.
But it's save to assume, that Flourish will see a nerf sometime soon, because the base healing at 80 is insanely high.

It's 1610 on beta now. The Blizzard talent calculator was updated from 1610 to 672. The new talent changes haven't pushed to the beta servers yet, so I am pretty sure that Flourish is being decreased.


On beta, it does not have a cooldown. The talent calculator does not imply that it will have a cooldown, either.

Oh wow. I read somewhere that it had a CD similar to that of CoH. Without a CD it probably could stand to be toned down.

Do multiple flourishes on the same target from the same druid stack or just overwrite each other? With it being a raid wide smart heal that effects 5 people what happens when the same person gets targeted by the smart heal part twice?

It overwrites. Which isn't so bad considering that subsequent ticks are lower. (ref. @1280 spell power, it started at 497 then dropped about 40 per tick for me, a total of ~2700 healed.)

I was spamming the spell, which has a pretty graphic, lights, and a FWOOM sound to try to irritate my party.

Clear your cache and reload the talent calculator. GFraizer updated the stats for both Starfall and Flourish on Friday.

Flourish is a smart heal? I don't recall ever reading that - can someone in Beta confirm if this awesomeness is true?

It's a party or raid targeting heal, like CoH/Chain Heal. I don't think I've explicitly seen it stated as a "smart heal" anywhere, but there's no reason to believe it uses different mechanics for targeting than what already exists.

Unfortunately, I can't go test it on a raid because I'm in beta login hell, and can't connect since they blocked out logging in w/ retail account info, and my blizzard account has never worked.

I'm not sure how 'awesome' it would be for Flourish to be automatically targetted on the lowest health members of the raid. Such a mechanic would minimize the impact of Flourish since it would pick precisely the targets most likely to be 'sniped' by other raid heals.

I actually think Flourish would work better as a party-only heal (like CoH now), so Resto Druids could effectively lay down a HoT stack on an entire raid.