I didn't see the math explicitly worked out in the thread so I worked it out myself. Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere.

The proc rate of Replenish (15%) and the structure of Rejuvenation (4 ticks in 12 seconds) means that a given Rejuvenation has just under a 48% chance to proc one or more Replenish effects. The chances of procing a given number of Replenish effects off a single Rejuvenation are:













which means that although a given single Rejuvenation has just under a 48% chance to proc one or more Replenish effects, each Rejuvenation gives 60% of the Replenish effect on average. This means that in the long term (yes, I know fights don't last forever) Replenish can be thought of as:

Your Rejuvenation spell also restores 0.5 Energy, 0.25 Rage, 0.1% Mana or 0.5 Runic Power per second.

I don't know too much about energy/rage/RP generation rates, but 10 mana per second (MPS) on 10k mana seems like a nice buff to deliver with Rank 1 Rejuvenations that cost 1.6 MPS in ToL. (MPS will probably replace MP5 as a stat thanks to the new beta regen change.)

Now, if Rank 1 Rejuvenation works, then using anything higher for Replenish purposes is silly. If Rank 1 Rejuvenation doesn't work, Replenish gets bad in a hurry. It seems a little inelegant to me to create a high-level raiding mechanic that relies on 1.0s GCD Rank 1 Rejuvenations, and Blizz has a history of deprecating the use of very low-rank spells in raiding environments. For this reason, I don't think we've seen the final version of Replenish quite yet.

I can't comment on what I think this final version will be, as I'm not experienced with the mechanics and balancing of other party-regen abilities.

Note: Kortar informed me that I made this way too complex, and I did. The expected number of Replenish procs per Rejuvenate is just the number of Rejuve ticks times the proc rate, so 4*0.15 = 0.6.

Depending on how it's calculated and the coefficient of it vs. nourish there is a good chance it really would hardly be better than nourish even without a hot on your target. Nourish is also way cheaper. We will have to wait and see how the HT glyph is actually calculated but as of right now it really really doesn't make very much sense.

Brinas:
I think that's what the HT glyph is aiming for. However, I still find the glyph's usefulness questionable, especially when you consider that it nerfs our NS+max HT combination, effectively removing the biggest "oh shit" button we have.

I came to the same conclusion over on the Tree thread, and it was pointed that we don't know whether Replenish can proc on a full-HP target.

I tested with letting rejuv continuisly tick on the tank. There were no 5 rage spikes out of combat, i couldn't really tell mid combat though. Doesnt look too good for that talent to be taken into a normal resto specc, with Flourish i hardly had time to cast rejuv.

Since we are sort of on the topic of inscriptions how exactly do they work? Do you have to have the profession in order to use the glyphs or are the glyphs like enchants that can be sold/traded to other people?

You have 6 glyphs sockets in your spellbook (2 major, 2 minor, 2 lesser, where major and minor drastically change the way a spell works, lesser being cosmetic or fun aspects), Inscription appears to have a Glyph Mastery allowing you to have one other Glyph. Glyphs can be sold through the AH or trade windows.

I'm a little concerned about the Regrowth Glyph as it seems superfluous with the introduction of Nourish. Similarly the Healing Touch Glyph seems superfluous as we have both Nourish and Regrowth. The only Glyphs that seem universally appealing to me are the Lifebloom and Swiftmend Glyphs, and the latter of those two can be amazing or eh depending on how time was left on the HoT to be consumed anyway.

I'm rather impressed with the Regrowth one but then again I have been a 'fan' of Regrowth for a very long time and thus am slightly biased towards the spell itself, especially here where it finally unleashes some potential the spell has had for a long time.

Not only does it provide the extra 'oomph' that I feel the spell lacks it provides an incentive to utilize the spell more and maintain a good dosage of the HoT on most of the raid.
This will also allow Nourish to have a much higher chance of using its +20% bonus on non-tank targets where required as not many other HoTs are likely to remain on people long enough to offer stability of it.


Naturally the Lifebloomers will be excited at the Lifebloom one especially combined with GoTEm which will allow so many stronger rotations and offer great assistance against latency in their role.


They seem to provide some allowance of role adaption while not actually changing spec.. providing some much needed deviation from the classic tank & raid healer set assignments if people are truly better at the opposite role.

I still see a fundamental problem here.

Obviously your go to spell when unexpected, non-trivial damage to a single target occurs is Regrowth. In current circumstances this occasionally means throwing Regrowth on someone who is already under the effect of the HoT, in which case the Glyph is useful.

However it's effectively serving the same function as Nourish with the Glyph. It's a heal cast when Regrowth's HoT is already on the target. Granted there are minor differences, one is faster, one perpetuates a HoT, one works on a range of HoTs while the other works on only one, but overall the one is now impinging on the other.

Which leaves us with two possibilities. If Regrowth is significantly better than Nourish in this role using the Glyph, Nourish serves little or no purpose. If, on the other hand, Regrowth is still inferior or at best equal in the role, then the Glyph serves little or no purpose.

Based on the lack of Nourish and Flourish glyphs in the preview, and the Healing Touch glyph's considerable similarity to Nourish, I have the feeling that the glyph preview was written before druids entered their current state.