Rank1 rejuvenation is mini innervate with replenish. Give more than consume.

Regarding haste: I think it depends on what the rotations will be, and what healing situations we'll find ourselves in.

If they're still LB and RJ heavy(3+ tank situations), haste will be fairly useless. Also, if they remove the 1.0s hard cap on the GCD, haste will still be useful, but I don't believe that this will ever happen.

In single tank situations, it will help smooth out LBx3/RJ/Nourish rotations, and help with the AOE heal GCD.

Spirit is an annoying stat still in general, if Priests didn't get additional +Healing from it im rather sure they would be less inclined to overwhelm their gear with it as they do right now.

Even though ToL aura is very weak right now (group restriction), it was the only possible thing we had to give an incentive to take it beyond a pure 'Regen' state - with that removed it really does just end up as a stat for regeneration and unless mana pots get overhauled that wont be enough to keep it as a significant stat (pending massive mana consumption changes).


If they perhaps re-added the Barks Blessing as an additional talent (upon healing your target it gets a buff which increases healing received by x% of your Spirit for y sec.) deep in Restoration then it should mostly address this concern (and provide a perk for dual-Resto) but...

I have retired from raiding hard until WotLK arrives and further, put my resto druid on the shelf but I intend to pick him up at the expansion. Until that point, I thought I was a pretty effective healer but I relied too heavily on my Regrowth spell, using max rank and a mid rank that hit for about 800-1.4K ish. (T5 2 pices bonus helps here)

Anyhow, the "Living Seed" proccing off of crits is interesting as talented, RG gets up to 50% crit and so with no stacking for it but with those talents, I was gritting 60-70% of the time on ths spell. Assuming that talent isn't changed, in order to not only put a long HoT on targets but to plant that seed, won't RG be a pretty powerful spell?

I'm looking forward to having a little wider range of spells to cast and seeing some changes that effect the utility of existing ones. Being an LBbot can get a little tedious at times.

As far as I was aware, Innervate comes under regeneration :P considering it benefits only yourself and not others you cast it on in relation to your Spirit.

Perhaps 'very weak' was not the best choice of words (and lets not go into the ToL Aura + Spirit stacking debate here), but on broad terms you will not see any considerable amount of Druids having the high quantities of Spirit which Priests do, or many socketing [Purified Shadowsong Amethyst] let alone [Sparkling Empyrean Sapphire] in comparison.

hmmm, skill talent changes again... this post was rendered inaccurate

Assuming a 12k mana pool, Replenish restores 144 mana per Rejuvenation. Less than the 20 or so mana you spend for Rejuvenation (Rank 1), it rants 124 mana. You probably lose more mana than this by losing 1.5s of FSR time. In any case, 144 mana probably isn't worth spending the GCD.

Also, think about the fact that this talent restores 10% Energy, 4% Rage, 10% Runic Power and 2% Mana @ 15% per tick. While these are not as equivalent as I make them out to be, I don't think mana regeneration is a particularly significant part of this talent.

Updated the first post. Healing Touch and Nourish in ToL form. To be honest, I'm more excited about the fact I don't have to switch out of ToL form every time I need to rebuff someone who died. :P But who knows, maybe Healing Touch will serve a new use in WotLK. At least no more switching back after spamming the NS macro.

I would rather see the latter too.

In all honesty, the Wrath changes have me horribly conflicted. I haven't enjoyed my Druid in a very, very long time. (I wanted to switch to Priest for BC and all, but we had no trees.)
As it stands today, I'm still basically the only PvE tree in our entire guild alliance that fields 2 raids and hundreds of non-25 man raiders. (There's a couple alts that are Resto sometimes, and the new tree convert in our second raiding group.) I'm lonely, and I've grown really tired of the lifebloom-rolling, constantly scheduled style of healing we've developed. However, the Wrath changes for Resto druids are basically everything I would have ever thought to ask for, and it completely obliterated the "cons" list I had made when I was trying to figure out how I felt about the 4 healing classes, with the thought of a new main for WotLK.

I'm just not sure that 2 years of bitterness about my Druid are something I can get over because this stuff is shiny. I should probably move on, but at the moment, Resto Druids seem to have the most compelling setup from what we've seen so far, and they have the most interesting and unique mechanics.

My fear for is that lifebloom rolling and hot stacking being the unique mechanic it is, even if our other heals are competitively effective with the other healing classes, we'll end up in the same role we have now, simply because we're the only healing class that can stack and roll hots. Nourish and Flourish will have a much bigger role in 5 mans (and 10 to some extent) but I am not sure if I see our raid role changing much, even though Nourish and Flourish are great. Nourish and Flourish would have to be better than the offerings from the other classes to be used over rolling hots; and that won't/shouldn't happen for raid balance.

Flourish fitting a 6 sec rotation again is awesome. It'd see use certainly, but as a personal preference I'd like to see the healing style move away from the set cycles of heals we do. I don't care for the scheduled and unreactive feel of healing as a Tree as we cast our 4 (or 5) beat cycle. Maybe that's just me being tired of the cyclical nature, and I should move on if that's what the class is meant for, and people enjoy it as such.

Buffing, Decursing, and HT in tree are really just long overdue changes. It sounds kinda small, but shifting in and out was a nuisance, especially when you're dealing with a 2 druid raid where the other one is a feral with no ImpMotW.

All in all, these really are an amazing set of changes; I hope they make it live mostly intact.

You didn't really have to conform to spending every GCD on refreshing a stacked LB on a random raid member though, being able to raid heal on many encounters really helped keep the class interesting (generally keeping LB on MT though but still..), I never really embraced the "Lifebloom or die" mentality many people have, even back when +healing clickies enabled you to get beefy rolls.




I notice that Tree of Life Aura has been changed again for the better, it once again gives 25% of Spirit - an extra 5-15% for the improved version (to 40%?) - to the party/raid.
The snare has also been removed from ToL form finally

The T3 bonus works regardless of any healing happening, so I wouldn't be so sure untill we get confirmation that it only works on successful ticks.