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Old 04/15/09, 1:40 PM   #616
kalbear
Bald Bull
 
Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
If Genesis does increase the periodic damage of Feral abilities like Rip, Rake and Lacerate then it should always be considered for feral dps as a way of getting more damage. Especially because feral periodic damage is a huge part of their overall dps.
It doesn't, so don't worry about it.

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Old 04/15/09, 5:47 PM   #617
roquer
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Burning Legion
any recommendations on tweaking video settings so that I can see better in raids and know which way to face for backstabs? I don't want to set it so low that I can't see void zones either.

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Old 04/15/09, 7:01 PM   #618
AlexS
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Azgalor
What is the best heirloom weapon for leveling up a feral druid?

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Old 04/16/09, 12:43 AM   #619
halmmar
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Druid
 
<Zen>
Xavius (EU)
Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
What is the best heirloom weapon for leveling up a feral druid?
Weapons - Items - World of Warcraft

None of them are impressive

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Old 04/16/09, 2:47 AM   #620
Omniro
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Kargath (EU)
Simple question: What kitty glyphes are worth it for a general raiding build? Same for bear OT/MT glyphes.
(I just haven't found a satisfying answer to that, or I have missed it)
Thanks alot.

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Old 04/16/09, 4:38 AM   #621
charriu
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Tauren Druid
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Originally Posted by Omniro View Post
Simple question: What kitty glyphes are worth it for a general raiding build? Same for bear OT/MT glyphes.
(I just haven't found a satisfying answer to that, or I have missed it)
Thanks alot.
Shred, Rip, SR.

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Old 04/16/09, 8:59 AM   #622
AlexS
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Azgalor
I was thinking of starting a feral druid but now I am having second thoughts. There are no weapon heirloom items for druids (I can deal with that) but everyone keeps QQing about how druids are getting nerfed left and right. In your opinions, are druids going down the DPS range or just that now it requires more skill than an average QQer has to play the class right?

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Old 04/16/09, 10:27 AM   #623
Pike
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Tauren Druid
 
Uther
Personally, I love the challenge of feral DPS since WOTLK's release. I enjoy DPS'ing at least as much, if not more, than tanking now. If people don't like a challenge, there's always pong.

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Old 04/16/09, 12:07 PM   #624
gunsmithx
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Human Rogue
 
Icecrown
Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
I was thinking of starting a feral druid but now I am having second thoughts. There are no weapon heirloom items for druids (I can deal with that) but everyone keeps QQing about how druids are getting nerfed left and right. In your opinions, are druids going down the DPS range or just that now it requires more skill than an average QQer has to play the class right?
Our DPS went up from pre patch. They did remove rake off of primal gore which means we didn't get quite the massive upgrade we had at the start of testing but we did go up. That said we also have one of the more complicated rotations, but like Pike said, it's a fun challenge. FeralByNight is a good thread to read up on for DPS.

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Old 04/16/09, 12:24 PM   #625
Duilliath
Great Tiger
 
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Duilliath
Night Elf Druid
 
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Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
I was thinking of starting a feral druid but now I am having second thoughts. There are no weapon heirloom items for druids (I can deal with that) but everyone keeps QQing about how druids are getting nerfed left and right. In your opinions, are druids going down the DPS range or just that now it requires more skill than an average QQer has to play the class right?
I'll be one of the first to complain about Ferals, but none of my complaints have to do with DPS. We've gotten quite a generous boost, though scaling might still be awkward. Feral DPS is involving and challenging, but that's part of why I enjoy it.

Most of my gripes have to do with Tanking and/or PvP.

Ignorance can be solved with a book. Stupidity requires a shotgun and a shovel.

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Old 04/16/09, 6:20 PM   #626
Kiryojo
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Antonidas
Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
I was thinking of starting a feral druid but now I am having second thoughts. There are no weapon heirloom items for druids (I can deal with that) but everyone keeps QQing about how druids are getting nerfed left and right. In your opinions, are druids going down the DPS range or just that now it requires more skill than an average QQer has to play the class right?
I wouldn't say we got nerfed in 3.1, I would say they buffed us to absurd levels, then realized their mistake and toned down the buffs a bit.

I've been #1 or #2 for every fight so far in Ulduar, excluding Flame Leviathan (3rd, screw vehicles!) and Kologarn which A. Cannot be backstabbed and B. Heavily favors classes with incidental AoE. I broke 7k dps on Deconstructor, including a large amount of down time due to me running around like a retard trying to get in range of someone for a Combat Rez, but you get a damage buff of sorts on that fight. Keep in mind all this is without the 3% Savage Roar glyph, which is a pretty substantial buff as well.

The class definitely has the most complex dps rotation, especially if you have to keep mangle up yourself. But, if you get comfortable with the rotation, the damage output is quite awesome, even more so post patch.

My other char is a Porsche

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Old 04/16/09, 8:06 PM   #627
Tiffara
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Cenarion Circle
Relentless Earthsiege Diamond

I've noticed that the +3% increased critical damage from this doesn't appear to affect the initial damage from rake when it crits (the initial damage from rake is a fixed amount, not a range, making testing trivial, and was exactly 2.2 times the non-crit damage in my test, with 3/3 Primal Instincts giving a +10% crit damage bonus). Has anyone else noticed this?

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Old 04/17/09, 1:15 PM   #628
Atrus
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Skullcrusher
How viable is Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon at 80? Or rather, is the bonus helpful assuming you're already using a similar mana-regen oriented trinket such as Talisman of Troll Divinity.

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Old 04/17/09, 4:13 PM   #629
Pioneerjd
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Druid
 
Khadgar
Slightly off-topic, but there's little point in necro'ing the Sarth3D tanking thread.

It appears the effect of the [Effulgent Skyflare Diamond] has been fixed from "All Resistances +2%" to "All spell damage taken -2%".

Actually, it says "Apply Aura: Mod Dmg % Taken (All) Value: -2", which may be another defect with the gem (I'm assuming that would say "% Taken (Spell)" or the like if it were only Spell Damage). Regardless, it may have just made itself viable for any magic-heavy tank fight again.

Source: Wowhead

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Old 04/17/09, 5:56 PM   #630
mesullivan
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Night Elf Druid
 
The Forgotten Coast
Savage Defense Math

I've been searching for a while in the 3.1 thread and can't seem to find more than occasional non-specific comments. Does someone have a link to the math on Savage Defense and how much damage it actually will shield in typical fights and how that compares to how much armor we are losing? I'm trying to find out where the mitigation breakpoint is for how much AP and crit I need to make up the armor loss on single target big hit fights. I assume that fast hitting and multiple target aoe tanking will be buffed with the new patch.

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