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12/02/08, 2:10 PM
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#126
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Occasional Success
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Originally Posted by Fang273
Just a quick question. Most feral tanks I've seen both in game and on armory seem to stack stam on everything possible. Normally I would say they're doing it wrong, but I've literally only seen one druid with agil gems so far. So, my question is, is stacking stam at all more beneficial than gemming/enchanting for agility when you have enough health to survive the mob's burst? I realize it helps reduce overheal, but that seems more dependent on the healer than anything.
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Talk to your healers, find out where they're comfortable. Except for very specific circumstances, I don't bother stacking lots of stam, and instead mostly gem for avoidance. After two weeks of Naxx25 and Heroics, I run about 35k raidbuffed, maybe a little more. For Patchwerk hateful soaking, I'm at about 45k. This works out well for my raidgroup.
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12/02/08, 10:24 PM
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#127
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Glass Joe
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I am looking for a macro that takes me out of cat form casts rejuvenation and put me back into cat form. It would save me time leveling.
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12/02/08, 11:02 PM
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#128
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Soda Popinski
Tauren Druid
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Originally Posted by tylanthea
I've tested this and it just requires Earthliving to be on the target.
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My Swiftmend would look like it could be used when Earthliving was up but it would fail on cast when I tried, the only time it would actually fire off was when there was another HoT (Riptide or RG/RJ) on the target too.
I also had times when Swiftmend would consume both Riptide and Earthliving at the same time - odd.
Something is just annoyingly buggy around the whole thing.
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12/03/08, 12:31 AM
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#129
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by wabox
I am looking for a macro that takes me out of cat form casts rejuvenation and put me back into cat form. It would save me time leveling.
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There is no such macro. Rejuv and cat-form both take a GCD, so there's no faster way to do this than to self-cast rejuv and then cast Cat afterward.
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12/03/08, 5:10 AM
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#130
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Glass Joe
Gnome Hunter
Ravenholdt (EU)
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Do any macros exist that coordinate bear/cat mangle, and bear/cat charge in 2 buttons? I now have to manually drag and drop these 2 skills every time I switch forms. Needless to say this is very inconvenient.
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12/03/08, 5:17 AM
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#131
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Balino
Do any macros exist that coordinate bear/cat mangle, and bear/cat charge in 2 buttons? I now have to manually drag and drop these 2 skills every time I switch forms. Needless to say this is very inconvenient.
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From an earlier post in another thread:
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Feral Charge - Bear
/cast [stance:3] Feral Charge - Cat
Guessing you can just replace Feral Charge with Mangle... if that answers your question.
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12/03/08, 5:23 AM
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#132
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Sylvanas (EU)
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Originally Posted by Balino
Do any macros exist that coordinate bear/cat mangle, and bear/cat charge in 2 buttons? I now have to manually drag and drop these 2 skills every time I switch forms. Needless to say this is very inconvenient.
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I think you should try action bar paging (automatic bar switching on certain conditions). You can set up paging for forms and prowl too. This way you get dynamic key bindings.
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12/03/08, 12:59 PM
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#133
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by pluhi
I think you should try action bar paging (automatic bar switching on certain conditions). You can set up paging for forms and prowl too. This way you get dynamic key bindings.
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I use action bar switching, but if I were a serious pvp'er, I'd use macros instead. The action bar takes some amount of time to switch, and that adds a few tenths of a second (on a slowish computer) to anything you'd be able to do on the other bar immediately. Switching to catform, that's pretty much just trinkets, but switching to castform and hitting cyclone, heal, or any number of other skills needs to be as instant as possible. I get around it by keeping a bunch of caster skills on my cat bar, but I have 3 keybound action bars - any less and it's tough to fit all the skills you need in.
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12/03/08, 4:29 PM
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#134
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Janraea
There is no such macro. Rejuv and cat-form both take a GCD, so there's no faster way to do this than to self-cast rejuv and then cast Cat afterward.
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Is there anyway with the other types of heals?
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12/03/08, 4:38 PM
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#135
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Save Greendale!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by wabox
Is there anyway with the other types of heals?
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Show me a heal that doesn't incur the GCD, and you'll get your macro.
So, no.
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12/03/08, 5:08 PM
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#136
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Adoriele
Show me a heal that doesn't incur the GCD, and you'll get your macro.
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Lifeblood is off the GCD, but is also usable in forms. No macro required. =P
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12/03/08, 5:54 PM
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#137
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Druid
Echo Isles
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Originally Posted by Janraea
I use action bar switching, but if I were a serious pvp'er, I'd use macros instead. The action bar takes some amount of time to switch, and that adds a few tenths of a second (on a slowish computer) to anything you'd be able to do on the other bar immediately. Switching to catform, that's pretty much just trinkets, but switching to castform and hitting cyclone, heal, or any number of other skills needs to be as instant as possible. I get around it by keeping a bunch of caster skills on my cat bar, but I have 3 keybound action bars - any less and it's tough to fit all the skills you need in.
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I'm not a serious PvP-er but most of my in-a-hurry abilities are bound to 13 keys (plus movement, shift and ctrl), using macros.
No modifier, in any form = That form's offensive spells or form-specific abilities (Like frenzied regen).
Shifted, in any form = Heals
Ctrl, in any form = Shape-Shift, special defenses (Grasp, Barkskin, Shadowmeld/Prowl) or use an item (trinket, potion, ...)
In feral forms, Ctrl-Shift means use the caster offensive ability for that key (Cyclone, FoN, ...).
Most of the single-target spells will "prefer" a mouseover target if it is has appropriate harm/nodead attributes for the spell.
I do use action-bar switching for the feral forms (otherwise my macros get too long), but the caster-abilities (heals and offensive spells) are included in the feral macros. To cast Rebirth or Cyclone from cat form, I don't have to explicitely shift-out first.
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12/04/08, 1:53 AM
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#138
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Glass Joe
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Today I did Naxx 10 man. It was the first time for a smaller group that we formed within our guild. Needless to say our group was not at all ideal, we had no shaman and the only buffs I had were Wisdom, GotW and Fort. Keeping that in mind, we did Patch and after several wipes finally cleared him. I was at the top of the DPS but it was not at all flattering, my DPS was hovering around 2-2.2k each fight and I was having mana trouble the whole time despite having all four regen talents. My rotation was IFF (once every 30 seconds) MF Wrath spam until Eclipse then reapply MF SF spam, repeat. Is this rotation too mana intensive and why was my DPS so low regardless (even while I had mana my DPS was not getting very far above 2.2k). Any ideas?
Thanks.
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12/04/08, 5:55 AM
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#139
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Great Tiger
Fars
Human Paladin
No WoW Account (EU)
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Originally Posted by wabox
I am looking for a macro that takes me out of cat form casts rejuvenation and put me back into cat form. It would save me time leveling.
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Assuming you have not mucked about with the cVars that control shifting out of shapeshift forms to cast spells:
/cast [stance:3,target=player] Rejuvenation; [nostance] Cat Form
This will incur 2 GCDs, of course. If you find that you spend too much time healing yourself, then get kitted with the +200 HP on XP/honor opponent death trinket (quest reward from Sporeggar in Zangarmarsh) and the improved PvP version from Grizzly Hills and - if needed - put talent points into the +20% healing received while cat. Most of the time, you should be gaining health while killing single mobs using both of those trinkets - but do note the 10 second CD on them.
The main reason I did this was because I didn't have any good trinkets from BC (didn't raid on my Druid) so your mileage may vary.
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Originally Posted by Wraithlin
Do your hospitals have unusually narrow doorways?
If not how do "lifestyle choices" explain the waiting time statistics?
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12/04/08, 4:09 PM
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#140
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Dawnbringer
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How important is it to get to the hit cap as Feral dps? Should it be top priority?
Last edited by Durack : 12/04/08 at 4:32 PM.
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12/04/08, 7:53 PM
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#141
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Piston Honda
Tauren Druid
Talnivarr (EU)
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Strength will always be our best stat, after that come agility/hit/expertise. So yes hit is good for us, but you shouldn't gem it unless the socket bonus is really good as well.
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12/04/08, 7:56 PM
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#142
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Bald Bull
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Strength will always be our best stat, after that come agility/hit/expertise. So yes hit is good for us, but you shouldn't gem it unless the socket bonus is really good as well.
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I disagree. The cost of missing a savage roar or a rip is pretty large, as is fewer OoC procs. More hit/expertise also makes the cycle go far more smoothly.
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12/05/08, 2:46 AM
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#143
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by wabox
Is there anyway with the other types of heals?
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I've been using self heal macros forever, which are simple
/cast [target=player] Whatever Spell
that I keep hot keyed to something easily accessible. They won't put you back in forms, but they certainly will take you out of whatever form you're in and cast the spell. And it won't de-select whatever target you have at the time. Quite handy.
I think that's the macro text anyway, I haven't looked at them in forever.
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12/05/08, 5:35 AM
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#144
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Glass Joe
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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Can I get some minimum stats needed to start running 10 and 25 man naxx?
I'm at 1500 SP, 226 hit, 100ish haste and 18% crit. Is this enough?
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12/05/08, 7:33 AM
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#145
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Druid
Auchindoun (EU)
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Originally Posted by Moolest
25 man naxx?
I'm at 1500 SP, 226 hit, 100ish haste and 18% crit. Is this enough?
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Short answer = yes.
Easy upgrades :
Offhand = Badges.
Trinket = Badges.
Belt = Cloth from badges.
Rings = Heroic stratholme & utgarde keep (I think it is).
Or even easier : Try enchanting your gear
Seeing that you allready have Naxx 25 gear I dont understand your question though?
If its because you have trouble performing then work on your gear outside raids, there's loads of items that could easily be improved.
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12/05/08, 10:58 AM
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#146
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Nordrassil (EU)
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I'm afraid this has probably been asked 1000 times by now so I don't want to spam Rawr's thread more than I already did
Simply put:
Executioner / Mongoose / Berserking / Massacre
From Astrylian's response, I gather that it's:
Berserking>Mongoose>Massacre, but I'm not sure on where Executioner falls in as I heard some rumours that it was or is better than Mongoose.
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12/05/08, 11:34 AM
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#147
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Von Kaiser
Tauren Druid
Aggramar (EU)
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What are the optimal meta choices?
For bear - I would guess Austere Earthseige is hands down winner
For cat - I would guess the crit damage boost one is still best
For tree - I just don't know - 21int + regen proc, Spell power + (something)?
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12/05/08, 12:25 PM
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#148
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Skytor
What are the optimal meta choices?
For bear - I would guess Austere Earthseige is hands down winner
For cat - I would guess the crit damage boost one is still best
For tree - I just don't know - 21int + regen proc, Spell power + (something)?
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For Tree, I'm looking to get [Ember Skyflare Diamond]. Boomkin I believe the best is [Chaotic Skyflare Diamond], but I could be wrong.
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12/05/08, 1:09 PM
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#149
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<Druid Trainer> Emeritus
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Why wouldn't you use Insightful for Tree?
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12/05/08, 1:42 PM
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#150
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Don Flamenco
Draenei Shaman
Ysondre (EU)
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Because you lose spellpower compared to [Ember Skyflare Diamond]. Myself I chose [Tireless Skyflare Diamond] because I like having the minor speed effect. This is assuming you don't find yourself out of mana anymore.
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