@Hoffmand9:

Ferals have the benefit of being able to offtank, while Moonkins don't.

If you have a lot of casters, go Feral, while if you have a lot of melee, go Moonkin, as it'll balance the raid better and reduce the waste on gear drops.
If you have no arms warrior (for Trauma) then Feral will give you 30% more bleed damage (mangle).
If you have no fury warrior (for rampage), then Feral will give your raid 5% physical crit.
If you have no elemental shaman (for Elemental Oath) then Moonkin will give your raid 5% spell crit.
If you have no retribution paladin (for Retribution Aura with Swift Retribution) then Moonkin will give your raid 3% spell haste.
If you have no shadow priest (for Misery) then Moonkin will give your raid 3% more spell hit (Improved Fairie Fire).

All these things should be taken into account - it's not an easy question to answer, which is why there isn't a straight answer. Both Feral and Moonkin are very good DPS specs now. I'm not sure which is the higher DPS - in the raids I've been in, my own dps as Moonkin has been greater than that of the ferals for the most part, but I believe I'm better geared in general so I'm really not sure.

Only happens if Riptide(!) or another of our HoTs is on the target but it will indeed consume the puny Earthliving if it is the lowest duration on the target for a pathetic <3k heal.

If imp. moonkin/swift retribution works the same way as wrath of air we'd get: where 1.05 is wrath of air, 1.03 is moonkin/ret and h is how much haste needed to reach 1s GCD on GotEM spells since it's -0.3s after haste.

Solving for h gives: or 6.7% haste.

It was posted earlier that Idol of the Raven Goddess does nothing for trees. I'm curious as to why that would be so. Does the healing not actually apply anymore to other healers? Or is it just that the amount is so low that it's a negligible buff/far eclipsed by other idols (20~ spell power)?

edit: I fail at item links apparently.

After hearing that it doesn't work i tested in game, and healing is not increased at all by the idol. Mizarus reasoning sounds right to me.

Sorry that Mongoose isn't modeled in Rawr yet. We're working on it. But it is currently the best for Bear. For Cat, I don't know yet whether Mongoose or Berserking is better, but I expect Berserking is out of the question for 99.9% of us, at the moment.

so can some one explain to me how to build the numbers for lootranks for resto, cus its not lookin like any one here knows the numbers or have taken the time to look, i have been useing rawr but doesnt have everything in it.

Staves are melee weapons, yes, you can enchant Mongoose on it. Do you think people would be recommending it as the best bear enchant otherwise?

I've been reading alot of theorycrafter's work and i still can't figure out where i go wrong...


Its been written all over: for Feral tanks ~41.666667 agility = 1% dodge or 1 agility = ~0.0235% dodge
When i look at my druid i only get about 0.0188% dodge per 1 agility. I'm aware of the dodge cap which is around 50% but my own dodge is only at around 35%.


Is there something I'm missing? Do i fail at simple math? I can't figure out why I'm getting alot less dodge from agility than the theorycrafter claim i should get.

If Rawr doesn't have everything in it, just add the items yourself. Tools menu -> Edit Items -> Add Items button. Type in the wowhead itemid.

It seems to me that Leatherworking and Jewelcrafting are currently the two best professions for Feral tanking. Leatherworking gives 90 Stam in place of 15 expertise, Jewelcrafting is worth at least 51 Stam, BS and Enchanting are worth 48 Stam each. BS and JC can emphasise other tanking stats by using different gems. This assumes rare gems, epic gems will improve BS and weaken JC. Is this summary roughly correct?