Feral questions? - Page 35

Robosaurus · 01/04/10, 2:22 AM

@monstroussin. Your profile appears to have a parry gem in the shoulder socket. Furthermore you have utilised 4 JC gems instead of 3.

I fixed it up and renamed the profile.

Profiler - Wowhead

monstroussin · 01/07/10, 5:57 AM

Yeah I noticed it the next day and changed the profile, but thanks. Time to go back over things again though since we can actually see the socket bonus's to see if any of them are worth grabbing over losing the arp. However I think being just 9 off the hard cap will be sufficient.

Khickenwing · 01/09/10, 1:16 PM

Ok, so basically the Class Leader in my guild is giving me trouble because he wants a mangle bot and I was thinking, ok I can drop imp. Leader of the Pack and 1 out of infected wounds pick up Imp. Mangle and keep Master Shapeshifter and not lose anything, but now he wants me to keep Imp. Leader of the pack so he can drop it for more DPS talents, I'm just looking for a little break down on the stats and threat gen comparison between imp. mangle's 1.5 seconds off Mangle and 4% extra damage to everything provided by Master Shapeshifter.. Thanks any help is greatly appreciated.

Dreydon · 01/11/10, 12:28 AM

[Cryptmaker] Actually fits pretty nicely. The hit and ArP allow you to drop the ToC boots for [Frostbitten Fur Boots] and maybe even allows you to use a non ArP cloak, like the one off Gunship for guilds that don't do ToGC anymore. The strength might even be better than agi if we're passively bumping up against the crit cap.

Something like this: Profiler - Wowhead

Mjoedgaard · 01/11/10, 6:23 AM

Originally Posted by Khickenwing

Ok, so basically the Class Leader in my guild is giving me trouble because he wants a mangle bot and I was thinking, ok I can drop imp. Leader of the Pack and 1 out of infected wounds pick up Imp. Mangle and keep Master Shapeshifter and not lose anything, but now he wants me to keep Imp. Leader of the pack so he can drop it for more DPS talents, I'm just looking for a little break down on the stats and threat gen comparison between imp. mangle's 1.5 seconds off Mangle and 4% extra damage to everything provided by Master Shapeshifter.. Thanks any help is greatly appreciated.

You can drop 3/3 infected wounds for 3/3 imp. mangle if you have a warrior with you.
The only reason you would need 3/3 imp. mangle is for more treat as you should have mangle 100% at the time on a single target anyway.

Inaiwae · 01/11/10, 7:35 AM

Not sure i understand it correctly. He wants you to take imp. mangle so there's lower chance that mangle drops?

If that's the case i'd drop master shapeshifter, not infected wounds. There are cases where you wont have the option of someone else doing the debuff.

I guess typical bear is hit capped (at least with current gear) and has around 30-40 expertise. So the chance you miss a mangle is 5-7%, and you have to miss two times for mangle to drop. I dont think the chance is big enough to warrant spec with improved mangle.

Daboran · 01/11/10, 9:30 AM

There's no need to take Imp Mangle.

As long as you have the correct skill rotation and have a reasonable level of +hit and +exp Mangle is extremely unlikely to fall off with a Bear tanking. I think I've noticed it happen less than 6-7 times and I've been Feral tanking since SSC. On top of this, I think 4 of these were on Brutallus due to the gearing requirement forcing me to drop +hit items.

Tell your CL:
(1) Get an addon that watches debuffs. If by some extreme remote chance it falls off he can hit Mangle on his Cat which is likely hit-capped and wont wipe the raid rather than compromise his tank's abilities which "may" wipe the raid.

(2) Take his 3 points out of FI or Imp. Mangle himself if he wants to use them to move from 2/5 to 5/5 Feral Aggression. But seriously is he bitching about the negligible increase from 3 points in FA?

♦ Carebare · 01/12/10, 1:31 PM

I'm going to lock this thread. I'm working on cleaning up our forums to cut down on repetitive threads. This really does fall into that category. If you have a simple question, put it in the SQA thread. If your question is more in-depth post it in the cat or tank threads depending where it fits best. Thanks.