regarding the staff discussions, what do people consider as the current BiS PVE weapon as a feral tank now then as the options are rather close together in my eyes, , the twisted visage or naxx staff which are pretty much even if the maths in this thread is correct, or the polearm from yogg saron (sorry i wasnt able to find a link of this)

Hi all.

I apologise if this topic has been done to death, but my searches haven't been very fruitful - I can't find anything that seems to answer my questions clearly.

Given the lack of +str on leather gear at the mo, even with the high ratio of str->AP for a talented cat, I'm kind of at a loss as to how much emphasis I should be placing on chasing strength. My kit (mostly heroic or 10-man epics) has no +str at all, other than through enchants, and there isn't even much through those. I can gem for strength, but I'm wondering whether I should just keep going with AP/Agi/Crit instead.

At the moment, I've got about 900 agi and 45% crit unbuffed, and about 120 str. Given that I have so little, would adding even a little str through gemming and chants actually have a disproportionately large effect on my overall DPS?

Thanks in advance.

Both Agi and Arpen are better than strengh so you'll never gem for it. Usually the best cat gear doesn't have str either, you shouldn't worry about it.
Actually if you have enough Arpen from gear the best route is to gem for Arpen, otherwise (and to have some hybidism) you can gem for agility.

A question to fellow kitties about Yogg fight.
In the p2 where you dps his brain inside his.. brain, is there a way to position yourself behind it? I tried it few times and failed and since it's a tight dps race I don't really want to waste time on finding the right spot when I can just mangle spam. Anybody found some solid spot that will let you shred?

I have found that targetting it, using feral charge (cat) when in range and DPSing from wherever I land allows me to shred reliably.

The brain's back is toward the Stormwind vision.

Are you considering Dark Edge of Depravity BiS only from non-pvp sources? Or has there been a nerf to [Furious Gladiator's Greatstaff] ?

I'm not sure what other tanks are doing, but I think the general consensus would be to gem for a mix of agility and/or stamina, depending on preference. Personally I am stacking stam, as the bosses in Ulduar can hit quite hard, but might re-gem agility later in gearing if I feel I have "enough" health to survive unlucky burst. I would not gem for any pure threat stats, except for on a secondary set of threat gear - in which case I would gem expertise.

@Lobo: I am assuming the greatstaff will get fixed to have half the agility, it will still be the superior tanking weapon after that unless you're also counting threat.

For gemming, favoring Stamina > Agility at the start of new content and then working toward better TPS/DPS with BiS is nothing new, especially for Druids.

Hiya! I hope its' alright to post this question here seeing as it does say "feral questions" which is pretty generalized. But as a feral tank i'm still having issues keeping aggro with bigger mobs or even some smaller mobs. I think it has something to do obviously with the fact I was using a very old BC tank rotation and am now looking for perhaps a better rotation. From what i've read *which isn't too much yet* it seems that mangle, swipe and lacerate are the attacks that you use, and everything else is just "eh". I used to use demoralizing roar, mangle, lacerate, maul and swipe, of course not all in that particular order and swipe usually only with multiple mobs. So obviously things have changed and as I stated i'm looking for more of a updated rotation.

Thanks a ton, and yea i forgot to mention I do use faerie fire every time it comes up. I figured lacerate was still one of the biggest players in the tanking rotation.