Originally Posted by mokg
I saw your WWS and was rather unimpressed with it:
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You have a quick kill time, an absurdly high crit rate on the nuke you're boosting via eclipse, and an ele shaman which I did not have. All of this while "only" pulling 4871 dps. Now lets take a look at a WWS using eclipse the other way
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Both spreadsheets and actual playing have shown that proccing eclipse from wrath is more beneficial.
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We can surely agree that 4871dps is far from impressive by now, killing speed is not a huge factor in moonkin dps though (fx. Our first Naxx clear:
3.58 4.7k ). Double trees helps surely, & lower heroism uptime is not really hitting moonkins as much as others.
Funny thing about that wws is that wrath lists in there with a 10-15% crit below expected values & the end result is more or less the same (3.58 was in worse gear, but atleast not as laggy).
With that being said i'm still playing around with rotations, & we can agree that my prefered way is definatly not the only way.
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If you want to compare the two wws's you listed then you need to factor MS in aswell, I dunno how your server acts on wednesdays though.
Going by your armory you have 10.13% haste / I got 13.42%.
My kill 148 seconds : 38starfire + 48 GCD (35wrath, 6x moonfire, 5x IS, 2x various) - Total crits = 42
Your kill 155 seconds : 44starfire + 48 GCD (32 wrath, 6x moonfire, 8x IS, 2x various) - Total crits = 47 (Difference from your moonfire actually critting & 3 more on starfall - chance of overlapping procs but lets ignore that).
Going very simple & assuming that all Nature's grasp proc goes to the spell that procced it (with moonfire+starfall ones going to starfire).
Ignoring shared haste buffs (wrath of air, heroism, potion of speed) & without checking for doubleprocs of Nature's Grace this roughly gives :
Assuming 100 MS my casts indicate : 2.49*21 + 1.99*17 + 1.25*11 + 1*24 + 13*1.25 + 0.1*86 = 148 seconds.
Yours assuming 100 MS : 2.56*15 + 2.06*29 + 1.28*20 + 1*12 + 1.28*16 + 0.1*92 = 165 seconds.
Your number is about what I would expect when factoring in lag & additional haste buffs -- My number shows me what I allready knew (that its pointless to raid on wednesdays on Al'akir if you care about wws-scores).
Give me 9 more seconds of casting time & id do an additional 2x starfire hits+2x starfire crits averageing out 34928 damage - which spread over 148 seconds is 236dps.
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Above is surely inaccurate, I tried favouring you slightly in casttime roundings to make sure my result wasn't to biased too much by my initial feeling. At the end of the day the two wws's listed against eachother hardly proves anything more than both rotations being fully capeable of breaking 5k dps.