Moonkin Raiding - Page 146

OnyxShadow · 10/09/09, 1:06 AM

Updated Druid T10 set bonuses

* 2 Pieces (Balance): (Updated) When you gain Clearcasting from your Omen of Clarity talent, you deal 15% additional Nature and Arcane damage for 6 seconds.
* 4 Pieces (Balance): (Updated) Your critical strikes from Starfire and Wrath cause the target languish for an additional 5% of your spell's damage over 4 seconds.

Both are still a little low. The 2 piece is bordering on acceptable, but the 4-piece isn't very impressive at all...although better than the nonsense it was earlier.

• Hamlet · 10/09/09, 1:25 AM

Originally Posted by Splade

How?

Both bonuses effect only wrath and starfire

4T9 is a flat 4% damage increase all the time, no matter what.
4T10 is 5% damage increase, but only if you crit.

the 4% is additive with Moonfury and Solar Eclipse. Assuming this new one is multiplicative with everything, including your crit bonus (since it does a percentage of the final crit total) it winds up better.

I just evaluated it by lazily hacking a 1.05 into the spreadsheet and looking at the numbers. I'll try to work it in properly soon so people can look in detail.

Skwai · 10/09/09, 1:48 AM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

the 4% is additive with Moonfury and Solar Eclipse. Assuming this new one is multiplicative with everything, including your crit bonus (since it does a percentage of the final crit total) it winds up better.

I just evaluated it by lazily hacking a 1.05 into the spreadsheet and looking at the numbers. I'll try to work it in properly soon so people can look in detail.

That's all assuming that they implement the 4p Correctly. If the dots overwrite each other then it will result in chain criting refreshing the dot too quickly for it to do damage until you stop critting. If however it applies the dot for Every spell that crits then it's a net +5% crit multiplier applied after everything else.

xaijin_sama · 10/09/09, 4:27 AM

Originally Posted by Skwai

That's all assuming that they implement the 4p Correctly. If the dots overwrite each other then it will result in chain criting refreshing the dot too quickly for it to do damage until you stop critting. If however it applies the dot for Every spell that crits then it's a net +5% crit multiplier applied after everything else.

I am going to assume the mechanics work like mages and ignite, whereas it will refresh the dot and add to the total damage due over the duration.

Rondaru · 10/09/09, 8:26 AM

Originally Posted by Skwai

That's all assuming that they implement the 4p Correctly. If the dots overwrite each other then it will result in chain criting refreshing the dot too quickly for it to do damage until you stop critting. If however it applies the dot for Every spell that crits then it's a net +5% crit multiplier applied after everything else.

If it is a DoT they are actually talking about. It could also be debuff applied to the target that gives 5% to all our consequent spell damage for 4 seconds.

thedopefishlives · 10/09/09, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by Rondaru

If it is a DoT they are actually talking about. It could also be debuff applied to the target that gives 5% to all our consequent spell damage for 4 seconds.

The tooltip reads pretty clearly as a DoT. I doubt they would give us two set bonuses with the same general effect.

I put the set bonuses into my local copy of Rawr this morning. I assumed that the 4-piece bonus works like the ret paladins' Righteous Vengeance, where each additional crit gets rolled into the remaining damage of the dot, so that the net effect is simply a 5% increased critical strike damage. Using this rather idealistic assumption, it came out to be ~200 dps, or a roughly 3% increase. The 2-piece bonus is a bit lackluster, clocking in at ~50 dps or roughly 0.75%. Comparatively speaking, both the 2-piece and the 4-piece T9 bonuses are stronger, but reversed; 2T9 is very powerful, 4T9 less so. My back-of-the-napkin calculations suggest that if you have reasonably high ilevel 2T9, you will be keeping that, otherwise go ahead and go for the 4T10 bonus.

Starfox · 10/09/09, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by OnyxShadow

Updated Druid T10 set bonuses

* 2 Pieces (Balance): (Updated) When you gain Clearcasting from your Omen of Clarity talent, you deal 15% additional Nature and Arcane damage for 6 seconds.
* 4 Pieces (Balance): (Updated) Your critical strikes from Starfire and Wrath cause the target languish for an additional 5% of your spell's damage over 4 seconds.

I updated SimulationCraft with those and took a run with the T9 profile and ONLY changed the activated bonuses (not actual items changed)

SimulationCraft for World of Warcraft build 3.2.2 ( iterations=9999, max_time=300, optimal_raid=1, smooth_rng=0 )

DPS Ranking:
  28283 100.0%  Raid
   9484  33.5%  Druid_T9_58_00_13
   9473  33.5%  Druid_2T9_2T10
   9354  33.0%  Druid_4T10

Player: Druid_2T9_2T10 night_elf druid balance 80
  DPS: 9473.0  Error=4.5  Range=847  DPR=30.0  RPS=315.5/314.2  (mana)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14187592
  Core Stats:  strength=365|97(10)  agility=366|98(10)  stamina=1754|1282(1160)  intellect=1746|1329(1160)  spirit=752|549(380)  health=24777|20057  mana=27021|23151
  Spell Stats:  power=4041|3314(3155)  hit=10.14%|10.14%(266)  crit=37.03%|29.53%(905)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.56%|17.02%(443)  mp5=150|121(28)
  Attack Stats  power=1802|334(0)  hit=8.11%|8.11%(266)  crit=36.59%|28.37%(905)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=45.31%|17.56%(443)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4159|3623(3427)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=12.96%|7.36%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: starfire/moonfire/insect_swarm/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/thorns
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/snapshot_stats
    faerie_fire/speed_potion/innervate,trigger=-2000/treants/starfall,skip_on_eclipse=1/starfire,instant=1
    moonfire/insect_swarm/wrath,eclipse=trigger/starfire,eclipse=benefit/wrath,eclipse=benefit
    starfire
  Actions:
    insect_swarm           Count= 20.2|15.0sec  DPE= 11194| 8%  DPET= 10169  DPR=  42.5  pDPS= 756  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=138  Tick=1636|1559|1896
    moonfire               Count= 13.9|22.1sec  DPE= 20668|10%  DPET= 18715  DPR=  30.6  pDPS= 961  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 385| 368| 441  Crit=  805|  769|  922|62.1%  TickCount=96  Tick=1742|1658|2007  CritTick=3640|3464|4195|61.9%
    reign_of_the_unliving  Count= 66.1| 9.0sec  DPE=  2670| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 589  Miss=3.8%  Hit=2187|2059|2316  Crit= 3380| 3181| 3578|47.5%
    starfall               Count=  3.8|96.7sec  DPE= 14857| 2%  DPET= 13111  DPR=  11.4  pDPS= 187  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=72  Tick=485|148|923  CritTick=1012|310|1929|55.6%
    starfire               Count= 68.2| 4.2sec  DPE= 15021|36%  DPET=  7558  DPR=  29.4  pDPS=3417  Miss=0.0%  Hit=7975|7708|9389  Crit=16711|16110|19623|80.7%
    wrath                  Count=111.8| 2.6sec  DPE=  8870|35%  DPET=  8272  DPR=  25.2  pDPS=3307  Miss=0.0%  Hit=5494|4261|6809  Crit=11491| 8905|14230|56.3%
   treants  (DPS=365.6)
    treant_melee           Count= 42.0| 5.1sec  DPE=  1834| 3%  DPET=  1259  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 257  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1883|1858|1908  Crit= 3766| 3717| 3817|8.3%  Glance=1412|23.9%  Dodge=4.9%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    bloodlust             : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    eclipse_lunar         : start=8.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.3|36.3   uptime=42%  benefit=72%  trigger=60%
    eclipse_solar         : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.6|36.6   uptime=39%  benefit=71%
    lightweave_embroidery : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.2|62.2   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    lunary_fury           : start=2.3   refresh=64.7   interval=105.8|4.4    uptime=97%  trigger=70%
    natures_grace         : start=31.7  refresh=134.9  interval=  9.4|1.8    uptime=87%  benefit=91%
    omen_of_clarity       : start=12.5  refresh=0.0    interval= 21.9|21.9   uptime= 6%  benefit= 5%  trigger= 6%
    t10_2pc_balance       : start=9.9   refresh=2.6    interval= 28.2|21.9   uptime=22%  benefit=20%
  Procs:
    271.7 |   1.64sec : judgement_of_wisdom
     66.1 |   9.02sec : reign_of_the_unliving
  Gains:
     3935.5 : blessing_of_wisdom      (overflow=39.8%)
    26901.0 : initial_mana          
    17314.1 : judgement_of_wisdom     (overflow=8.9%)
    56986.4 : moonkin_form            (overflow=16.7%)
     5851.0 : mp5_regen               (overflow=35.0%)
     5597.4 : omen_of_clarity       
    10086.1 : replenishment           (overflow=37.7%)
        3.5 : spirit_intellect_regen  (overflow=89.0%)

Player: Druid_4T10 night_elf druid balance 80
  DPS: 9353.6  Error=4.6  Range=902  DPR=29.6  RPS=315.6/314.1  (mana)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14187592
  Core Stats:  strength=365|97(10)  agility=366|98(10)  stamina=1754|1282(1160)  intellect=1746|1329(1160)  spirit=752|549(380)  health=24777|20057  mana=27021|23151
  Spell Stats:  power=4041|3314(3155)  hit=10.14%|10.14%(266)  crit=37.03%|29.53%(905)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.56%|17.02%(443)  mp5=150|121(28)
  Attack Stats  power=1802|334(0)  hit=8.11%|8.11%(266)  crit=36.59%|28.37%(905)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=45.31%|17.56%(443)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4159|3623(3427)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=12.96%|7.36%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: starfire/moonfire/insect_swarm/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/thorns
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/snapshot_stats
    faerie_fire/speed_potion/innervate,trigger=-2000/treants/starfall,skip_on_eclipse=1/starfire,instant=1
    moonfire/insect_swarm/wrath,eclipse=trigger/starfire,eclipse=benefit/wrath,eclipse=benefit
    starfire
  Actions:
    insect_swarm           Count= 20.2|15.0sec  DPE= 11197| 8%  DPET= 10171  DPR=  42.5  pDPS= 756  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=139  Tick=1636|1559|1896
    moonfire               Count= 13.9|22.1sec  DPE= 12592| 6%  DPET= 11402  DPR=  18.6  pDPS= 586  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 385| 368| 441  Crit=  805|  769|  922|62.1%  TickCount=96  Tick=1742|1658|2007
    reign_of_the_unliving  Count= 66.2| 9.0sec  DPE=  2669| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 589  Miss=3.9%  Hit=2187|2059|2316  Crit= 3380| 3181| 3578|47.4%
    starfall               Count=  3.8|96.7sec  DPE= 14856| 2%  DPET= 13110  DPR=  11.4  pDPS= 187  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=72  Tick=484|148|923  CritTick=1014|310|1929|55.8%
    starfire               Count= 68.2| 4.2sec  DPE= 15021|37%  DPET=  7558  DPR=  29.4  pDPS=3415  Miss=0.0%  Hit=7969|7708|9389  Crit=16708|16110|19623|80.7%
    tier10_4pc_balance     Count=  0.0| 0.0sec  DPE=     1| 3%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 254  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=110  Tick=695|209|4059
    wrath                  Count=111.8| 2.6sec  DPE=  8874|35%  DPET=  8277  DPR=  25.2  pDPS=3310  Miss=0.0%  Hit=5496|4261|6809  Crit=11489| 8905|14230|56.4%
   treants  (DPS=365.2)
    treant_melee           Count= 42.0| 5.1sec  DPE=  1832| 3%  DPET=  1258  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 257  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1883|1858|1908  Crit= 3765| 3717| 3817|8.2%  Glance=1412|24.1%  Dodge=4.9%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    bloodlust             : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    eclipse_lunar         : start=8.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.3|36.3   uptime=42%  benefit=72%  trigger=60%
    eclipse_solar         : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.6|36.6   uptime=39%  benefit=71%
    lightweave_embroidery : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.7|62.7   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    lunary_fury           : start=2.3   refresh=64.8   interval=107.3|4.4    uptime=97%  trigger=70%
    natures_grace         : start=31.6  refresh=135.1  interval=  9.4|1.8    uptime=87%  benefit=91%
    omen_of_clarity       : start=12.5  refresh=0.0    interval= 21.9|21.9   uptime= 6%  benefit= 5%  trigger= 6%
    t10_2pc_balance       : start=9.9   refresh=2.6    interval= 28.1|21.9   uptime=22%  benefit=20%
  Procs:
    249.1 |   1.86sec : judgement_of_wisdom
     66.2 |   9.01sec : reign_of_the_unliving
  Gains:
     4023.6 : blessing_of_wisdom      (overflow=38.5%)
    26901.0 : initial_mana          
    16425.8 : judgement_of_wisdom     (overflow=5.7%)
    57420.6 : moonkin_form            (overflow=16.1%)
     5967.7 : mp5_regen               (overflow=33.7%)
     5600.9 : omen_of_clarity       
    10312.0 : replenishment           (overflow=36.3%)
        3.8 : spirit_intellect_regen  (overflow=87.2%)

Player: Druid_T9_58_00_13 night_elf druid balance 80
  DPS: 9484.3  Error=4.3  Range=747  DPR=30.1  RPS=315.6/314.2  (mana)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14187592
  Core Stats:  strength=365|97(10)  agility=366|98(10)  stamina=1754|1282(1160)  intellect=1746|1329(1160)  spirit=752|549(380)  health=24777|20057  mana=27021|23151
  Spell Stats:  power=4041|3314(3155)  hit=10.14%|10.14%(266)  crit=37.03%|29.53%(905)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.56%|17.02%(443)  mp5=150|121(28)
  Attack Stats  power=1802|334(0)  hit=8.11%|8.11%(266)  crit=36.59%|28.37%(905)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=45.31%|17.56%(443)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4159|3623(3427)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=12.96%|7.36%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: starfire/moonfire/insect_swarm/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/thorns
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/snapshot_stats
    faerie_fire/speed_potion/innervate,trigger=-2000/treants/starfall,skip_on_eclipse=1/starfire,instant=1
    moonfire/insect_swarm/wrath,eclipse=trigger/starfire,eclipse=benefit/wrath,eclipse=benefit
    starfire
  Actions:
    insect_swarm           Count= 20.2|15.0sec  DPE= 10827| 8%  DPET=  9834  DPR=  41.1  pDPS= 731  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=139  Tick=1583|1559|1649
    moonfire               Count= 13.9|22.1sec  DPE= 19956|10%  DPET= 18070  DPR=  29.5  pDPS= 928  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 372| 368| 384  Crit=  778|  769|  802|62.0%  TickCount=96  Tick=1683|1658|1745  CritTick=3516|3464|3648|62.0%
    reign_of_the_unliving  Count= 66.2| 9.0sec  DPE=  2669| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 589  Miss=3.9%  Hit=2188|2059|2316  Crit= 3380| 3181| 3578|47.4%
    starfall               Count=  3.8|96.7sec  DPE= 14443| 2%  DPET= 12744  DPR=  11.1  pDPS= 181  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=72  Tick=472|148|803  CritTick=983|310|1677|55.8%
    starfire               Count= 68.2| 4.2sec  DPE= 15274|37%  DPET=  7685  DPR=  29.9  pDPS=3476  Miss=0.0%  Hit=8116|8016|8491  Crit=16987|16754|17746|80.7%
    wrath                  Count=111.7| 2.6sec  DPE=  8913|35%  DPET=  8313  DPR=  25.4  pDPS=3321  Miss=0.0%  Hit=5522|4431|6157  Crit=11542| 9262|12869|56.3%
   treants  (DPS=365.6)
    treant_melee           Count= 42.0| 5.1sec  DPE=  1834| 3%  DPET=  1259  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 257  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1883|1858|1908  Crit= 3766| 3717| 3817|8.3%  Glance=1412|24.0%  Dodge=4.8%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    bloodlust             : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    eclipse_lunar         : start=8.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.3|36.3   uptime=42%  benefit=72%  trigger=60%
    eclipse_solar         : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.6|36.6   uptime=39%  benefit=71%
    lightweave_embroidery : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.2|62.2   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    lunary_fury           : start=2.3   refresh=64.7   interval=106.0|4.4    uptime=97%  trigger=70%
    natures_grace         : start=31.6  refresh=135.1  interval=  9.4|1.8    uptime=87%  benefit=91%
    omen_of_clarity       : start=12.5  refresh=0.0    interval= 21.9|21.9   uptime= 6%  benefit= 5%  trigger= 6%
  Procs:
    271.7 |   1.64sec : judgement_of_wisdom
     66.2 |   9.02sec : reign_of_the_unliving
  Gains:
     3933.3 : blessing_of_wisdom      (overflow=39.9%)
    26901.0 : initial_mana          
    17297.8 : judgement_of_wisdom     (overflow=8.9%)
    57025.0 : moonkin_form            (overflow=16.7%)
     5846.4 : mp5_regen               (overflow=35.0%)
     5582.3 : omen_of_clarity       
    10079.5 : replenishment           (overflow=37.7%)
        3.1 : spirit_intellect_regen  (overflow=89.7%)

Auras and De-Buffs:
  Constant: abominations_might/arcane_empowerment/battle_shout/bleeding/blood_frenzy/crypt_fever/curse_of_elements
  Constant: earth_and_moon/elemental_oath/expose_armor/faerie_fire/ferocious_inspiration/flametongue_totem
  Constant: heart_of_the_crusader/hunters_mark/improved_faerie_fire/improved_moonkin/improved_scorch
  Constant: improved_shadow_bolt/infected_wounds/insect_swarm/judgement_of_wisdom/judgements_of_the_just
  Constant: leader_of_the_pack/mana_spring_totem/mangle/master_poisoner/misery/moonkin/poisoned/rampage
  Constant: sanctified_retribution/savage_combat/strength_of_earth/sunder_armor/swift_retribution/thunder_clap
  Constant: totem_of_wrath/totem_of_wrath_debuff/trauma/trueshot/unleashed_rage/windfury_totem/winters_chill
  Constant: wrath_of_air
  Dynamic:

Waiting:
    All players active 100% of the time.

Baseline Performance:
  TotalEvents   = 53812508
  MaxEventQueue = 49
  TargetHealth  = 8479416
  SimSeconds    = 3000409
  CpuSeconds    = 116.547
  SpeedUp       = 25744

RNG global Actual/Expected Roll=0.999937 Range=1.000000 Gauss=1.000000

So 2+2 beats 4T9 easily with the added stats you'll get

Mortilia · 10/09/09, 12:53 PM

What about 2T8 and 2T10 ?

I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure 2T8+2t10 will be better than 4T10 (weak tier), and comparable to 4T10 (middle tier).

not sure if 2T8+2T10 will be better than 2T9.245+2T10 (as most people won't have 2T9.258 when Icecrown comes out, with very limited drops per week for the few guilds who get some).

We might also consider using shoulders/gloves for 2T8, for less net stats loss compared to shoulders/legs.

thedopefishlives · 10/09/09, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mortilia

What about 2T8 and 2T10 ?

I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure 2T8+2t10 will be better than 4T10 (weak tier), and comparable to 4T10 (middle tier).

not sure if 2T8+2T10 will be better than 2T9.245+2T10 (as most people won't have 2T9.258 when Icecrown comes out, with very limited drops per week for the few guilds who get some).

We might also consider using shoulders/gloves for 2T8, for less net stats loss compared to shoulders/legs.

The loss of stats is too big even for the powerful 2T8 set bonus. We've already discussed how upgrading to 4T9-258 is a dps increase over the 2T8+2T9 setup; even the basic T10 gear is ilevel 251, which means that losing the 2T8 is undoubtedly the way to go.

Curlymon · 10/09/09, 1:38 PM

I wonder if Blizzard will be doing something similar to the T6 set and have 8 pieces but only 2 and 4 piece set bonus. The large amount of bosses in IC they have mentioned would seem to indicate something similar to this.

2t8/2t9/4t10 would be interesting or even 4t9/4t10

• Hamlet · 10/09/09, 1:57 PM

Originally Posted by Curlymon

I wonder if Blizzard will be doing something similar to the T6 set and have 8 pieces but only 2 and 4 piece set bonus. The large amount of bosses in IC they have mentioned would seem to indicate something similar to this.

2t8/2t9/4t10 would be interesting or even 4t9/4t10

The preview art seems to have belts and boots: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...0_druid_hd.jpg .

Inc 2T8/2T9/4T10 BIS for Moonkin, yay.

Starfox · 10/09/09, 3:44 PM

Updated simcraft, I was reading the balance bonus as only starfire crits triggering it, but wrath also does, adds quite a bit of dps back for 4T10

Starfox · 10/09/09, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

The preview art seems to have belts and boots: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...0_druid_hd.jpg .

Inc 2T8/2T9/4T10 BIS for Moonkin, yay.

DPS Ranking:
  58001 100.0%  Raid
  10004  17.2%  Druid_4T9+4T10
  10002  17.2%  Druid_2T8_2T9_4T10
   9746  16.8%  Druid_4T9+2T10
   9486  16.3%  Druid_T9_58_00_13
   9475  16.3%  Druid_2T9_2T10
   9351  16.1%  Druid_4T10

Druid_4T9+4T10: 4T9 profile with both T10 bonuses activated
Druid_2T8_2T9_4T10: 2T8+2T9 profile with both T10 bonuses activated
Pretty fucking close nevertheless

• Hamlet · 10/09/09, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by Starfox

DPS Ranking:
  58001 100.0%  Raid
  10004  17.2%  Druid_4T9+4T10
  10002  17.2%  Druid_2T8_2T9_4T10
   9746  16.8%  Druid_4T9+2T10
   9486  16.3%  Druid_T9_58_00_13
   9475  16.3%  Druid_2T9_2T10
   9351  16.1%  Druid_4T10

Druid_4T9+4T10: 4T9 profile with both T10 bonuses activated
Druid_2T8_2T9_4T10: 2T8+2T9 profile with both T10 bonuses activated
Pretty fucking close nevertheless

I think 0.02% is within the error bars of your simulation :P . I'll try it in the spreadsheet sometime.

Rondaru · 10/09/09, 7:08 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

The tooltip reads pretty clearly as a DoT. I doubt they would give us two set bonuses with the same general effect.

I hold on to my doubts until I see it in action. Blizzard has a reputation for vague tooltips (do I hear someone say "Innervate"?) and another DoT up on the boss when a general increase of crit damage would have sufficed just doesn't strike me as a very sensible and beneficial to server performance. What's the point in turning our spells into something like Mage Fireballs? Will a critical Wrath DoT overwrite the DoT of a critical Starfire? Why punish us for spam-critting during lunar eclipse when 4T9 held no such handicaps?

And frankly, most set bonuses are basically just the same effect with a minor different mechanics these days. Blizzard seems to run out of ideas of making something interesting that makes our rotation more interactive like the instant Starfire. Frankly, they could just go back to bonuses like "+100 Spelldamage" for all I'd care.