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Old 02/23/10, 12:13 AM   #3256
Zifrelm
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Burning Blade
Hm, I couldn't get the "instant-cast-right-after-cast-time-cast" thing to work on Sindragosa 10-man tonight. Well, I think maybe one time it happened. All the other times I tried doing MF or IS after a SF, I still got two new stacks.

Perhaps my latency is too low? ;-)

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Old 02/23/10, 3:09 AM   #3257
Fleurr
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Hyjal (EU)
Same here, casting barkskin right after SF gave me one more stack each time I did it. I have low latency (42 ms this morning).

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Old 02/23/10, 3:17 AM   #3258
Vortigen
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Bloodfeather (EU)
Originally Posted by sapphire1987 View Post
2.Is the IS 3%miss-debuff unique and very useful in icc encounters?
Kind of. Hunters got scorpid string, but they won't use it anyway.

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Old 02/23/10, 8:40 AM   #3259
Ulthwithian
Piston Honda
 
Gnome Mage
 
Vek'nilash
To amplify on what Vortigen has said, we (as Moonkin Druids) have, to my knowledge, a much lower opportunity cost for applying this particular debuff than Hunters using Scorpid Sting.

If I recall, the only time my guild (in 10-man) has had a Hunter apply Scorpid Sting is to use it with Chimera Shot to disarm a target. (Goremok the Impaler is a good example of this use.)

On certain 'progression' fights (like, well, Festergut), an unglyphed IS can definitely help prevent a wipe.

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Old 02/23/10, 11:21 AM   #3260
Exayex
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Deathwing
Originally Posted by Fleurr View Post
Same here, casting barkskin right after SF gave me one more stack each time I did it. I have low latency (42 ms this morning).
I found to make it work, you need a bit of latency and Quartz. The cast also needs to be 1.1 seconds or longer. As soon as I cast the spell I wanted to, I began mashing the instant cast I wanted. This had a real high success rate for me.

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Old 02/23/10, 2:29 PM   #3261
Hyperion
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Thrall
I found to make it work, you need a bit of latency and Quartz. The cast also needs to be 1.1 seconds or longer. As soon as I cast the spell I wanted to, I began mashing the instant cast I wanted. This had a real high success rate for me.
I've never used Quartz, I assume it just provides a visual for spell queing? That 1.1 cast time thing makes sense, as I could get it to work sometimes, but not all the time, and couldn't figure out why.

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Old 02/24/10, 5:23 AM   #3262
ufoufnal
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Ravenholdt (EU)
Death knights, druids, hunters, mages, rogues, warlocks, warriors, oh my! For those participating in our public testing of the upcoming minor content patch 3.3.3, look out this week for a host of fascinating new adjustments to these classes. Chains of Ice innately does what? Nature's Grasp has how many charges? Vitalit...y boosts stamina by how much? Stay tuned to find out the answer to these and more questions!

It will be funny if in middle of contentetn our rotation and game play will be change....

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Old 02/24/10, 5:31 AM   #3263
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by ufoufnal View Post
Death knights, druids, hunters, mages, rogues, warlocks, warriors, oh my! For those participating in our public testing of the upcoming minor content patch 3.3.3, look out this week for a host of fascinating new adjustments to these classes. Chains of Ice innately does what? Nature's Grasp has how many charges? Vitalit...y boosts stamina by how much? Stay tuned to find out the answer to these and more questions!

It will be funny if in middle of contentetn our rotation and game play will be change....
Nature's Grasp is our reactive snare, you are thinking Nature's Grace.

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Old 02/24/10, 5:36 AM   #3264
ufoufnal
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Ravenholdt (EU)
Originally Posted by Latas View Post
Nature's Grasp is our reactive snare, you are thinking Nature's Grace.
Yes true... i was reading too fast and was so EXCITED that something is going to change about our RNG dps...

Maybe there willl be some changing this week announse, we will see...

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Old 02/24/10, 5:45 AM   #3265
Mews
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Fleurr View Post
Same here, casting barkskin right after SF gave me one more stack each time I did it. I have low latency (42 ms this morning).
It works for me. I raid on 400-450ms which is an average-high oceanic latency, maybe there's something in that.

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Old 02/24/10, 3:34 PM   #3266
Yijiao
Von Kaiser
 
Human Priest
 
Thunderlord
I was curious to see if anyone else had noticed that, during heroism, that spamming starfire seemed to be a better value at higher haste levels, regardless of eclipse.

And, if someone had, have they done any math as to what haste value+ that it becomes the better option. I figure, by the time we are in mostly ideal hard mode ICC 25 gear, starfire during heroism could get as fast as 1.2, which would make it the logical choice, but I was unsure at what value it first overtakes wrath.

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Old 02/24/10, 4:29 PM   #3267
aceofsween
Don Flamenco
 
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Troll Druid
 
Lightning's Blade
The latency thing is inconsequential and it is possible to use this mechanic to get 1 stack of Unstable Magic regardless of how high or low your latency is through spell queuing. I have between 60 and 90 ms and it is definitely possible to make use of this mechanic. I believe that Unstable Magic has a small internal cooldown of maybe less than .5 seconds. My guess is that it prevents multiple stacks from occurring when you cast a spell that procs another spell cast (such as Lightning Overload for Elemental Shaman). But in order to time this properly, you have to be very on the ball by queuing a spell so it casts immediately after you finish your first cast.

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Old 02/24/10, 4:31 PM   #3268
Diba
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Vashj (EU)
Starfall damage has been increased. Now causes 563 to 653 Arcane damage (Up from 433 to 503) and 101 Arcane damage (Up from 78) to all other enemies within 5 yards.
Suppose this Starfall change makes the IS and Starfall glyph difference shift way more to Starfall's favor, especially in heroic modes. Any clue how much of a dps increase it is? Seems a bit lame though, I'd expected a crit/haste scaling buff.

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Old 02/24/10, 4:32 PM   #3269
 Hamlet
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
I'll try to fix the sheet soon, but that's going to be a very small change overall.


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Old 02/24/10, 5:17 PM   #3270
Zojun
Von Kaiser
 
Worgen Druid
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
There has to be other stuff. At the very least, more PvP burst doesn't equal lower Typhoon cost or buffed Starfall. Here's hoping for something a little more significant.

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