Really I was just playing with it, I usually try and drink a speed pot right before the pull, so that I can use another a bit into the fight, but on this kill I forgot to pop one before we pulled patch and was just hoping for a buggy reset on my pot timer (it didn't work though).

Hello all,

From about 2-3 weeks I'm trying to max my moonkin raid dps

DPS rotatnion : MF -> SF (till eclipse proc) -> IS -> Wrath (till eclipse end) - > MF - SF , on BL MF + IS + SF ( after IS end i dont refresh).

My armory

WWS Patchwerk

Last reset was 500-600 DPS lower that that.

Should i skip IS in my dps rotation ( i dont have 1th bonus from t7)?

If someone have any advices?

For all help thx

have been reading through all of it; i'm asking myself if there should not be a further thread equal to moonkin dummy guide where standards are defined...?

i tried standard rotation (MF, IS, Warth till Eclipse --> SF, in Eclipse CD renew IS, MF; trenats before heroism, starfall and starfire only while heroism).

The World of Warcraft Armory is my armory, and for i don't have a wws on patchwerk handy, also ask myself why some of you hit 5k+ dps, and i just managed to do 3.3 k dps including haste potion.

ok - lvl 70 boots are crap and some enchants must be better, but is this worth 1.7k dps? or do i miss too much haste rating?

sure - you get to hear billions of the same silly questions - maybe one should define a standard procedure in dps-ing patchwerk, logging - discussing?

ty all

Biggest problem is that people cant read & would rather post a personal I do blah blah why am I not doing 8k dps???

Moonkin for Dummies thread is somewhat standard (issues people disagree on are mentioned in the discussion below), any skilled player following my advice can easily break 5k dps - atleast I do on most fights doing exacly what I describe).

This is not meant to be offensive, but personal skill & ability to time stuff & chaincast does matter -- It wont show much on Patchwerk, but on any fight that requires more than standing still the difference clearly shows.


@Kaartis - The potion question has been answered & the answer is easy to find.
@Yorge - Do yourself a favour & read up on stuff, atleast a small efford is appreciated if you want people to spend time helping you.
@Pavcc - Moonkin during heroism / Apart from that you are either lagging alot or not doing as you describe, if you arent doing more than 3.3k (or its a 10man without raidbuffs & this is where you need to either provide a wws or do some personal thinking). The standard procedure is posted in the moonkin for dummies thread, along with pretty much every other info the average player needs.


Sorry for the rant but this endless posting of questions abit of reading could answer is getting old.

@ ashaera: no, meant to do 25 man raiding, not ten. i apologize and will present a wwslog as soon as possible. and believe me: i read the dummy thread not only once! but maybe i do not have access to all the nice eq

tia, pavcc

I hate Patchwerk because of how trivial it is. It's basically stand in one spot and mash your buttons and hope that RNG will swing in your favor and see how many critical strikes you get. Druids doing 4500-5000 DPS in all 25 man gear is already extremely good. The only way to increase the DPS from that point on depends on the rest of your raid and how good your raid DPS is. Basically the shorter duration fight the higher your DPS will rocket.

Trivial though it may be, it's a good way of measuring your effort. If you're not casting more than 60% on Patchwerk, there's no way in hell you'll be doing it on Sarth+3. So while Sarth+3 may be a more useful measurement, Patch at least is consistent.

@Kikoimachine
Q1 - Thats up to you to answer, depends on what you raid & how you handle varies pulls / how much you value trash damage.
Q2 - If its a minor glyph then Im definatly taking it - Why are you using IV glyph now if you have no problem with swapping it out? Go for the 3 damage major ones then.

Check the thread created for discussing moonkin glyphs for earlier discussions regarding the two new glyphs.

I was using the IV glyph because i needed more mana regen when my gear was still low and i never thought about swapping it out anymore.
Thanks for the reply Ashaera, i needed a bonk in my head to realize i have too much regen right now to need the IV glyph anymore.

The Starfall glyph is a Major glyph, grats on making a major glyph that will not be taken. It is not better than insect Swarm, Moonfire, or starfire. On top of that PvP moonkins will not want it, so who is this glyph for?

regarding starfall glyph: maybe non-raiding pve-moonkins will want the glyph...maybe. as it seems to be a major glyph, the cd on starfall needs to be shortened for effectively using the starfall-glyph...but for now?