Moonkin Raiding - Page 30

Dirm · 01/27/09, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by Khalanis

It looks like you've swapped your numbers in the calculation you have there.

Well, that was dumb.

I think the rawr numbers are still interesting, though.

reverancee · 01/27/09, 3:52 PM

My question is regarding the nature's focus talent. Doesn't concentration aura from a pally overide that? i know u wont always have a pally but my guild runs 3-5 every night so just curious.

• Adoriele · 01/27/09, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by reverancee

My question is regarding the nature's focus talent. Doesn't concentration aura from a pally overide that? i know u wont always have a pally but my guild runs 3-5 every night so just curious.

No.

reverancee · 01/27/09, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Adoriele

No.

Well the reason why i ask is it worth it is bc if the conc aura give us 70% from knockback. Reason why i ask is bc i am used to play a priest till about 3 weeks ago and they have a reduce knockback talent and its not worth taking so i was just curious. Thank you for your help.

diogojcr · 01/27/09, 9:46 PM

Patchwerk (and some more bosses) WWS: Wow Web Stats

Rotation: IS - MF - Wrath till Eclipse - SF during Eclipse - Refresh MF - SF during Eclipse cooldown - Repeat all.

Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

I've been playing Druid since 2 months ago only, started as Feral but went Moonkin because our guild had none. Considering my gear I think there's not much more improve to do. Opinions? Read a lot on EJ about Balance to reach this kind of DPS so if there's anyone that can help improving it's you guys

Angelfire · 01/28/09, 1:56 AM

@ reverancee - It's a good question if this talent is worth it or not, but that's not the correct question.
You have to put two points in the first tier to be able to get to the next tier (other than Furor of course), and your choice is either Nature's Focus or Improved MotW. If you know you will always have a tree with IMotW, than putting points there is a waste and you should go for Nature's Focus. If you have no tree, or not sure you have a tree, or the tree for some odd reason didn't take IMotW, than you should take it over Nature's Focus I think.

pavcc · 01/28/09, 6:00 AM

@ angelfire: You are absolutely right! Improved mark of the wild is just too good to be passed! With our guild, it is not always guaranteed to have a tree within, cause we clear 25 man content in one evening and do 10 man Naxx the other night. as we then are 2 or even 3 groups, the druids mostly are split. so every "casting" druid in our guild does have improved MotW.

Ashaera · 01/28/09, 6:50 AM

@Klunky - You could replace most of your gems with 19spellpower + drop skinning for JC + drop some mana regen talents (perhaps not as your raiddps seems very low) + use best possible enchants.

Rotation: IS - MF - Wrath till Eclipse - SF during Eclipse - Refresh MF & IS any time outside of eclipse when they fall off - SF during Eclipse cooldown

Lilija · 01/28/09, 7:33 AM

Due to different last time of IS and MF occassionally it happens that one of them ends earlier (usually it's IS) in different moments of the rotation. Since I see many people advise here to refresh DoTs when they run out (when outside of eclipse) I am wondering do you refresh every single DoT each time it ends or only when both of them end?

Also sometimes it happens that there are about 1-2 sec left on DoTs and I already have to switch to wrath (eclipse CD ends). I still can't figure out is it better to just refresh DoTs before switching to wrath even tho they haven't run out yet or do that 1-2 wrath casts and then refresh them. Have similar thoughts about IFF (for those rare occassions when I do have to use it) since it's kind of a problem if it runs out in the middle of eclipse.

Note: we are speaking about non perfect, rather laggy enviroment, where as I presume, breaking the spam of wrath/SF might mean a slight dps loss. I just can't tell which is worse - breaking the cast spam or not perfect DoT refreshing.

Eilt · 01/28/09, 8:31 AM

The less GCD you spend applying DoTs the better. If you can get two wrath casts out befire MF or IS get off then you should do that. Best case you proc an eclipse and only reapply MF and start the SF spam, worst case you proc nothing and spend 2 GCDs to refresh them once they have fallen off.

The only time I would refresh my DoTs before they fell would be if I knew something was coming up that was going to prevent me from reapplying my DoTs when they fall off.

nory · 01/28/09, 11:33 AM

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reverancee · 01/28/09, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Angelfire

@ reverancee - It's a good question if this talent is worth it or not, but that's not the correct question.
You have to put two points in the first tier to be able to get to the next tier (other than Furor of course), and your choice is either Nature's Focus or Improved MotW. If you know you will always have a tree with IMotW, than putting points there is a waste and you should go for Nature's Focus. If you have no tree, or not sure you have a tree, or the tree for some odd reason didn't take IMotW, than you should take it over Nature's Focus I think.

Angelfire that makes sense. Thank you for the advice. Ashaera i wasn't trying to say you were wrong or nething i just was curious. We normally have a tree but on occasion we don't. also if the pallies give a 70% knockback would it be smart to just take 1 since that would be 23% plus the 70% or ?

Ishundra · 01/28/09, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by reverancee

Angelfire that makes sense. Thank you for the advice. Ashaera i wasn't trying to say you were wrong or nething i just was curious. We normally have a tree but on occasion we don't. also if the pallies give a 70% knockback would it be smart to just take 1 since that would be 23% plus the 70% or ?

If you only took one point in NF then you would have to put one in IMotW, or one of the healing talents. None of them does anything for you so 2/3 NF is the best choice if you're raiding with a tree druid.

mobe · 01/30/09, 8:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ashaera

@Klunky - You could replace most of your gems with 19spellpower + drop skinning for JC + drop some mana regen talents (perhaps not as your raiddps seems very low) + use best possible enchants.

Rotation: IS - MF - Wrath till Eclipse - SF during Eclipse - Refresh MF & IS any time outside of eclipse when they fall off - SF during Eclipse cooldown

So u never refresh iFF, and if no why have u spec it?
and i have read alot about rotation and tried different one and i still got a hard time to push over 4k dps.
Maybe it is our raid setup that sux or i still do something very very wrong.

Cdin · 01/30/09, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by mobe

So u never refresh iFF, and if no why have u spec it?
and i have read alot about rotation and tried different one and i still got a hard time to push over 4k dps.
Maybe it is our raid setup that sux or i still do something very very wrong.

If you have a Feral or another druid in raid putting FF on the boss then you don't have to. See the link below.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Improved Faerie Fire