Originally Posted by hoffmand9
When getting geared enough to drop intensity, is it better to get owlkin or brambles? Obviously brambles will be better for certain fights where there is little AoE damage and owlkin will be nice for the fights where brambles is bad. Overall what are your opinions on brambles vs. owlkin in the current wotlk raids?
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Off the top of my head:
Say Treants are 5-7% of your damage, then Brambles will give you about 1% for the 3 points.
To get 1% from Owlkin Frenzy, you need a proc every 100 seconds or so.
So you need to be hit (to an order of magnitude) once every 15 seconds, on average, to make OF better.
It depend on what you're doing. For PW parses, OF is useless, so take your 7k damage or whatever from Brambles. But the only meaningful DPS check in Naxx is Thaddius, and OF is good there (whereas Treants are entirely useless). If you're working on Malygos, OF will be better, as there a lot of RST abilities in both P1 and P2. And if you're working on Sarth+drakes, there's enough random damage to make OF good again, whereas I imagine Treants will just die stupidly to the lava wave or a Void Zone.
So basic result seems to be that OF tends to be better when you're doing anything remotely interesting.
e: unless OF stacks additively with Pos/Neg Charge, in which case both talents suck at Thaddius.
e2: it should be noted that the following things do more DPS than either Brambles or OF in almost any situation:
--Celestial Focus
--Imp. Insect Swarm, even in a non-IS build
--Imp. Faerie Fire, if it works off of your resident Feral's FF (undetermined, but the tooltip seems to indicate that it would).