Moonkin Raiding - Page 87

Takkenboom · 05/19/09, 3:28 AM

Nightsong Garb 4-Piece Set Bonus: Chance for Insect Swarm to trigger an instant Starfire changed to 15%.

That is what is says in the patch notes from MMO. Do i dare to belive they fixed it?

Lilija · 05/19/09, 3:32 AM

Originally Posted by Takkenboom

That is what is says in the patch notes from MMO. Do i dare to belive they fixed it?

On PTR it's still as it was

• Hamlet · 05/19/09, 4:07 AM

Originally Posted by Starfox

292-293 w/o, naked
392-393 only idol, rest naked

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Takkenboom

That is what is says in the patch notes from MMO. Do i dare to belive they fixed it?

There's still the larger problem of the proc being useless if it procs mid-Starfire cast.

Takkenboom · 05/19/09, 9:37 AM

Mmm, i am slightly confused now. I don't know any other bug than that. That if it procs while casting a SF, the proc gets consumed at the end of the cast.

So if they mention the set bonus in the patch notes but not fixing the problem above. What did they fix then? Was the proc chance lower before?

Selini · 05/19/09, 9:42 AM

Proc chance was 5%

• Hamlet · 05/19/09, 6:15 PM

Ok, I've put in a whole bunch of time modeling Eclipse/DoT rotations over the past few days. Current findings are basically contained in my modified version of WrathCalcs, posted here: WrathCalcs - Moonkin DPS Spreadsheet .

Most importantly, I seem to be finding that constant DoT refreshing, regardless of the Eclipse cycle, provides better DPS than the currently accepted DoT behavior of only refreshing during the Eclipse ICD. I have a hunch that better yet still would be refreshing at all times except during the final X seconds of Eclipse, but this is tricky to model well.

In any case, I think we may have been somewhat underemphasizing high DoT uptime in lieu of complete Eclipse maximization. Tinker with the sheet with your current setup and give any feedback. I'm going to work on trying to model the more detailed cycles soon.

spiritryu · 05/19/09, 11:01 PM

Oh joy!

Rest assured fellow moonkin! The issue has been acknowledge on the euro forums:

Q u o t e:
There is a known issue with Elune's Wrath which is being actively worked on for correction in a forthcoming update, however thanks a lot for letting us know!

World of Warcraft (en) Forums ->

Apparently I'm months behind and this was posted about a month ago....

Shinagami091 · 05/20/09, 12:28 AM

They did indeed increase the proc chance of 4t8. It would make sense that while they did that they fixed the bug rendering this 4pc useless. Can anyone confirm? I dont have 4pc yet so I can't find out for myself.

spiritryu · 05/20/09, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Shinagami091

They did indeed increase the proc chance of 4t8. It would make sense that while they did that they fixed the bug rendering this 4pc useless. Can anyone confirm? I dont have 4pc yet so I can't find out for myself.

They definitely have not fixed it yet.

Gudder · 05/20/09, 5:04 AM

What exactly would you guys say is BiS right now pre-hard modes??

And is it worth to keep 2pc T7.5 anymore?

Druidark · 05/20/09, 6:51 AM

Hodir powerbuffs really depend on luck by a large amount, some try you get only a few buffs, next try you get em all and overaggro the tank.
As i understand stormcloud only spreads to 5 persons or something close. The fastest people will see it and go ninja it fast (if its close, when its on melee its used up by the time you get there), then go hug a moonlight and put out an easy 10-12k dps. All the time you should try to stay close to a fire, because not moving is obviously better then moving for dps.
I only apply dots when moving from/towards something on this fight, or when i have no buffs at all.

Cynex · 05/20/09, 7:06 AM

I have done some test on dummies after the patch today. And i gotta say 4p t8 proc rate is radiculously huge. I have hited up to 6k dps with solar rotation, without any buffs except moonkin form. So im now asking myself: Are they going to fix the set bonus bug? Because if they do dps is going to skyrocket even more.

klüger · 05/20/09, 8:22 AM

Originally Posted by Cynex

I have done some test on dummies after the patch today. And i gotta say 4p t8 proc rate is radiculously huge. I have hited up to 6k dps with solar rotation, without any buffs except moonkin form. So im now asking myself: Are they going to fix the set bonus bug? Because if they do dps is going to skyrocket even more.

Your armory link doesn't work, and 6kdps solo I'd like to see a wws of.

Cynex · 05/20/09, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by klüger

Your armory link doesn't work, and 6kdps solo I'd like to see a wws of.

I said up to 6k. I had spikes going that high. I was dpsing untill im out of mana. The overall dps is around 4.7k.

Cloudshatter · 05/20/09, 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by Cynex

I said up to 6k. I had spikes going that high. I was dpsing untill im out of mana. The overall dps is around 4.7k.

... Which leads to the important question: Is Blizzard forcing us to favor Solar Eclipse? And Why?

I think it's time for developers to introduce a new nuke into the Balance arsenal. Possibly something with a cooldown, slow cast and high damage, like Pyroblast. Because the way I see it, the 4-set bonus is just that: an attempt to copy the Brain Freeze talent Frost mages have.