Restoration Itemization - Page 52

Zyth- · 08/27/09, 7:05 AM

4xT8-SetBoni-Discussion:

I've made an analyze of my last U25-Council-HM Kills and the percentage share for Instant-Reju was about 10 to 12.

I would not change my Set-Boni till i have enough 245+ Tier-/Offpieces.

Bebopaloo · 08/29/09, 5:04 AM

Howdy, long time reader first time poster with a couple of suggestion related questions.

I am currently 50 points below the raid buffed haste soft cap and am in somewhat of a pickle as to what off-tier or T9 piece I should be picking up.

For the time being I am currently leaning towards [Band of the Invoker] to replace my [Fire Orchid Signet], although I would still be shorted 30 haste which is somewhat of a strange irk that I'd like to fix somehow.

I also picked up [Boots of the Harsh Winter] which would replace my current [Spellslinger's Slippers] which would yet again put me even more behind the haste soft cap than I currently am and continue to bug me even further.

Given the gear I currently have equipped, would it be viable to gem straight Haste or X/Haste to makeup for the difference or will the thouroughput be lessened through the loss of SP in those sockets?

Edit: I have every piece of 8.5 as well as numerous emblems to spend so any suggestion would be viable.

Playered · 08/29/09, 6:27 AM

Get the chest from either Faction Champions(25), the one from General Vezax(25-Hard) or if no one wants the cloth gloves from Vexaz(25-Hard) are good too. Use your T8.5 shoulders to keep the bonus and you can probably then use your new boots without going below the haste cap.

If you intend to get a T9 item soon you could also go for the legs as this is a slot where in T8 you have crit and in T9 you get haste (again using T8.5 shoulders to keep the bonus for now) but one general rule of thumb to keep your haste at a good level is to never switch out a tier item with haste for a non tier item with crit because you tend to be stuck with your tier items and generally only 2-3 will ever have haste on them whereas other slots you tend to have a choice.

Jurik · 08/29/09, 6:55 AM

You could also consider dropping signet of soft lament instead of the fire orchid signet. The difference between the two is that one is crit/spirit and the other haste/mp5. Your overall spellpower would be slightly diminished, but you'd be exactly at the haste cap.

ganuard · 08/29/09, 4:54 PM

One of your big problems is honestly those shoulders. When they dropped for us I didn't even bother bidding, simply because the tier shoulders are one of the pieces that have haste.

What I would do, until you got more gear:

Switch shoulders for T8.5 Shoulders
Switch chest for Moonkin T8.5 Chest
Switch Feet to Boots of Harsh Winter
Change out Soft Lament for Band of the Invoker

Your SP would stay about the same, but your haste would go upto 426.

Draugir · 08/30/09, 4:15 AM

@Bebopaloo

You could also regem your SP/Int gems to SP/Haste. The 20 haste you'd gain from it along with the new ring would put you only 10 short of the soft cap.

Cathiecj · 08/30/09, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hatesfury

Never got any responses to this post, so i'll try asking here.

Breif version of the previous post, what program\addon do you guys use to look at gear? I like the way rawr works, but i don't think it does a very good job of approximating the MP5 needed, as it shows me very short depending on it's settings, and in-game i don't have mana problems.

Resto Spreadsheet

Also lootrank.com if you scroll back a few pages you can find the numbers to plug in to lootrank.

Tavi · 08/30/09, 7:39 PM

Which is the best Meta for a Resto Druid?

ttyl · 08/30/09, 7:58 PM

Insightful. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Demonspawn · 08/31/09, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by Erdluf

Math on breaking the old 4t8:
3000 SP

Total healed (6 ticks, no gear bonus) = (1690+2.256*3000)*1.72 = 14546
Old 4t8 = 14546/6/1.3 = 1865
To make that up over six ticks = 1865/1.72/2.256 = 481 SP

Of course 481 SP also helps your other heals, so looking at a WG(glyphed)+5Rj rotation:
WG = 6*(1442+.9664*3000)*1.268 = 33022
Total healed (no gear bonus) = 105752
Old 4t8(5 Rj) = 9324
Healed is base + SP*(6*.9664*1.268+5*1.72*2.256) = base+SP*26.75
To make up for 4t8 you need 9324/26.75 = 349 SP

Almost any other rotation will have a smaller fraction of Rj, and require less SP to break even. With the new 4t8 the "replacement SP" value is cut in half.

I just ran this calculation another way and think it's applicable to the discussion here.

4T8 rejuv was worth just under a full rejuv tic. Since the crit on rejuv is 50%, I need two crits out of 6. However, I'm going to change the rules and require 2 crits out of 4 as the 4T8 bonus was more often real healing rather than overheal, and 4 tics out of 6 is what the most druid favorable encounters have showing as effective tics (rejuv showing around 33% overheal).

Under that case, a druid needs around 35% crit to ensure at least 2 tics of each rejuv critting, or around 30% to get an average of 2 tics per rejuv going to crit.

♦ Carebare · 08/31/09, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by ttyl

Insightful. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

This is a personal preference based on group layout within your raid (do you get tide) and the mana problems you either do or do not run into based on your gear and/or style of healing/healing assignments. This is not the only meta gem that resto druids should use. I personally use Ember Skyflare (25 spell power + 2% intellect) and have no significant mana problems or issues using it. The additional benefit is that it only requires red gems. I would not say everyone has to do it my way, but this is what works for me and is a viable option for others as well.

Ajaco · 09/01/09, 3:39 PM

So the time has come to gear my druid, but I'm quite new with it. I've been doing some reading here, and figured that i should focus on Spellpower and Spirit mainly. I see many druids use a staff instead of a 1H + OH, is this just random, and the only reason they use a staff is because thats what's dropped for them, or does staffs simply have stats that benefit druids more, than a 1H + OH set would do? Should i rather start looking at staff as weapon alternatives, instead of 1H + OH?

Also, Lifebloom has been changed alot since I last played druid. It's a lot less mana efficent now, and to me it almost seems useless. Are there anyone that would mind explaining situations where using lifebloom could be useful?
(I know this is the itemization thread, and I do not expect my last question to be answered, but its a quite simple question, so thought someone probably would take their time to reply to it aswell.)

Best regards

• malthrin · 09/01/09, 3:40 PM

You should use whatever combination of items gives you the best stats. Usually this will be a 1h+OH for maximum spellpower, which is our best stat.

♦ Lrigatonmai · 09/01/09, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by malthrin

You should use whatever combination of items gives you the best stats. Usually this will be a 1h+OH for maximum spellpower, which is our best stat.

This, and as you said, the reason some of us use a staff is because it's the best thing that's dropped for us at this point.

Ajaco · 09/01/09, 4:39 PM

Alright, thanks. I've been doing abit research now (some wowhead surfing), and to me it looks like that the staffs have the same amount of SP as the 1H alternatives of the same itemlevel. So with an offhand aswell, would that be around 80 extra SP. But it also seems to me that the staves give a high amount of spirit.

Soo, basicly - if I pick a staff will i most likely have more spirit than with a 1H+OH set, but less spellpower, haste and crit.

Am I mistaken?