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Old 12/11/08, 11:30 AM   #16
bean81782
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For the Feral(tank) yellow slot you should list the Enduring Forest Emerald as it is the best gem to put in a yellow slot if you're looking for mitigation.

[Enduring Forest Emerald]

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Old 12/11/08, 12:00 PM   #17
Vrakk
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Im curious if anyone thinks [Sparkling Sky Sapphire] for blue slots or [Brilliant Autumn's Glow] for yellow are viable options for resto.

Also [Seer's Forest Emerald] hasn't been mentioned yet.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:11 PM   #18
Eilt
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Originally Posted by bean81782 View Post
For the Feral(tank) yellow slot you should list the Enduring Forest Emerald as it is the best gem to put in a yellow slot if you're looking for mitigation.

[Enduring Forest Emerald]
I fail to see how stacking defense when Feral druids are already crit immune is helpful. If it was, feral tanks would have been doing this in BC as well which was not the case. Yes it has stam on it, but the def is totally wasted.

@Vrakk:

When Spirit changed the ToL modifier to benefit everyone spirit stacking was fun, but now you get 15% of it to your healing and the rest will be there for regen purposes. If you are having such mana issues that you need the spirit there is probably other issues somewhere. I do believe the current sentiment for trees, is to maximize your spellpower to make your HoTs as strong as possible with just enough regen to last you a full encounter without having to stop casting.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:29 PM   #19
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Defense gives dodge, it is not totally wasted. In TBC, you could just stack tons of agility to get your dodge but now thanks to diminishing returns it is not crazy to add some defense. You certainly won't stack it, but for a not-that-great color like yellow, when the socket bonus is good, green Enduring gems are reasonable for a bear.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:39 PM   #20
 DirtySanch
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Originally Posted by Eilt View Post
I fail to see how stacking defense when Feral druids are already crit immune is helpful. If it was, feral tanks would have been doing this in BC as well which was not the case. Yes it has stam on it, but the def is totally wasted.
Defense still provides dodge and miss even though you are already crit immune. The reason to use this gem would be that defense provides at least a little mitigation whereas hit rating and other stats available on yellow gems provide none.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:43 PM   #21
Eilt
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I see what you mean, but there would seem to always be a need for a little extra hit or expertise from a yellow slot, instead of stacking dodge through DEF, but if the ferals think it is applicable I can add it to the list no problems.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:50 PM   #22
corveroth
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Skullcrusher
I recommend adding it. The choice between the two is a matter of threat against avoidance, and therefore will be influenced by preference and gear. Both are valid.

[edit] And Defense isn't just dodge, it's chance to be missed as well. Doesn't change the argument at all, but.

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Old 12/11/08, 1:52 PM   #23
thalys
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[Glinting Monarch Topaz] for tanking or hybrid OT/DPS ferals. Str/hit is better for pure DPS.

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Old 12/15/08, 1:48 PM   #24
AlinaSedai
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Well it seems that in this new WoW, there really is no need for a healer or a boomer to stack any stam gems. But I do think that if a boomer really really lacks hit [Vivid Forest Emerald] is a good idea until you can properly replace it!

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Old 12/16/08, 1:14 PM   #25
Beace
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Nice job on the list.

Might I suggest that you somehow mark the gems that aren't yet available?

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Old 12/16/08, 4:35 PM   #26
coldbear
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[Perfect Sovereign Shadow Crystal] is something I'm finding myself using a lot in my double-duty pvp/dps gear gemslots in order to try (unsuccessfully, so far) to get my Str above my Agi for the Darkmoon Card: Greatness.

Red & Blue slots. Unfortunately there's no blue equivalent, and the green version is a bit too downgraded to not step to blue in something else.

Last edited by coldbear : 12/16/08 at 4:36 PM. Reason: clarity


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Old 12/16/08, 7:12 PM   #27
ithecho84
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Originally Posted by Playered View Post
Meta [Ember Skyflare Diamond]
(unless you really, really need the mana from Insightful)
The mana proc is worth way more than the spell power gain from Ember Skyflare.

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Old 12/17/08, 1:04 PM   #28
gnoop
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Originally Posted by ithecho84 View Post
The mana proc is worth way more than the spell power gain from Ember Skyflare.
This is also based on raid composition and spec. With Dreamstate, Omen of Clarity, Intensity, and Moonglow all maxed, you'll have a pretty solid amount of mana regen ability. If you're in a raid with a Ret Paladin and/or Hunter, you're doing even better and would likely not benefit as much from a chance to restore mana.

It certainly would be a good choice of a gem on a backup helm for those situations where your spec has fewer mana regen talents and mana battery talents from other classes/specs aren't available in your raid (typically a 10-man).

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Old 12/17/08, 2:28 PM   #29
Natetheape
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Korgath
Originally Posted by ithecho84 View Post
The mana proc is worth way more than the spell power gain from Ember Skyflare.
i am using the Insightful Earthsiege Diamond currently to make up for my lack of INT and noticed that the proc can be triggered off of hot ticks which is very nice

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Old 12/17/08, 6:56 PM   #30
killets
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Originally Posted by Changer_executus View Post
I think it is also worth mentioning: [Regal Twilight Opal] for feral tanking gems as well as the shifting is unavailable. Personally i'm sticking to the [Guardian's Twilight Opal] in blue slots until shifting is available.
I think you're wrong on this note, given that I have two Regal Twilight Opal in my inventory right now.

[Design: Regal Twilight Opal] is sold by Tiffany Cartier for JC dailies.


On the other hand, I think it's fair to mention that the uncommon gem equivalent, Regal Shadow Crystal is currently bugged in game. You can experiment with your Jewelcrafters, but what happens is, (at least for my normal JCer), when you create [Regal Shadow Crystal], it creates [Infused Shadow Crystal] instead, despite the fact that it clearly shows him casting [spell]53971[/spell]. If you want to throw another kink into it, if the crafter were to proc a perfect gem, you do actually get [Perfect Regal Shadow Crystal], and not a [Perfect Infused Shadow Crystal].

It's kind of a strange bug, and I'm not 100% sure this happens to every Jewelcrafter, but it is happening pretty reliably to my guild Jewelcrafter, and there are posts on Wowhead.com regarding this exact same phenomena.

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