barrabus

The enduring cut (def/stam) is not a terrible choice if you absolutely have to fill a yellow socket for a bonus (not the case with the boots linked above, but still) and you'd rather have avoidance than threat. You could also use one of the orange cuts (def/dodge or something with agi), but none of those have stamina.

 

charriu

I wouldn't say "never" here... It's more of a "don't gem defense if your socket bonus isn't absolutely amazing". However, if it is, use prismatic gems *if you can*, otherwise well, gem defense or hit.

Agility or stamina are superior though.

 

phoebelia

With the upcoming change to jc only gems World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change I am curious as to thoughts on gemming for certain socket bonuses as a moonkin since it will now be necessary to use at least 2 [Purified Twilight Opal] to active our meta [Chaotic Skyflare Diamond] If our gear is comprised of [Collar of the Wyrmhunter] [Icecore Staff] and [Sash of Ancient Power]


Its pretty obvious that 1 [Purified Twilight Opal] would go into [Collar of the Wyrmhunter] as you would receive 9 sp from the gem plus 9 form the socket bonus equaling 18 and then the spirit to spell power conversion of 8*.3=2.4 (2.64 if you add in kings) so in the end approximately 20-21 spellpower (not sure if the 2.64 would b rounded up in 3 spellpower or not)

The second one is a toss up as both socket bonuses are 7 spellpower For this we will take the [Icecore Staff]

This leaves us with the question does one gem for the socket bonus on [Sash of Ancient Power] or not. Should it b gemmed for straight spellpower(leaving out the belt buckle here for simplicity) granting 38 total spellpower or getting to socet bonus with a [Purified Twilight Opal] and a [Runed Scarlet Ruby] which would return 19+9+7=35 raw spellpower and an additional 8 spirit which in turn would grant 2.64 spellpower which if ?rounded? would grany 38 total spellpower plus an additional 8 spirit giving more regen (while not casting at least)



After typing all this out i realized my question is very simple how much spell power does a [Purified Twilight Opal] grant a moonkin is it 11 or 12 with kings ?

 

Benita

Afaik there is no per gem rounding so its 8.8*0.3=2.64 so 11.64 total.

 

• Arawethion

2.69 with iMotW to be pedantic. Blue sockets with spellpower bonuses are also a nice place to squeeze out a bit of extra stam at almost no DPS loss.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.

 

Orin

I just wanted to post a quick reply here regarding resto druid meta gems. There was some discussion in one of the other resto threads a couple weeks ago about the [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond] really calculating out to extremely high mp5 values in Ulduar raids and that vs the [Ember Skyflare Diamond] it is a much better choice for stat point allocation. I decided to give it a try, here are some of my results from last night's Ulduar-25 raid. The times and values were from our WWS and WoL reports.

[Ember Skyflare Diamond]
[Insightful Earthsiege Diamond]


Hodir: 4:20, 5 procs : 3000 mana. = 57 mp5
Auriaya: 5:10, 7 procs: 4200 mana. = 67 mp5
Kologarn: 4:57, 5 procs, 3000 mana. = 50 mp5
XT: 3:38, 4 procs, 2400 mana. = 55mp5
Mimiron: 12:25, 14 procs, 8400 mana. = 56mp5

During some of our XT hard-mode attempts I calculated some mp5 values upwards of 80, but due to how short some attempts were I decided to not include them in my list above. Because the sample size for me is rather small, I am just figuring a rough 60mp5 average. It may be more or less in time, but for now it's a nice round number to work with.

Now compare that to the Skyflare meta. 2% intellect, assuming roughly 1500 Int when raid buffed, that calculates out to 30 intellect.

25 Spell Power and ~30 Intellect vs. ~60 MP5 and 21 Intellect.



At this point it's up to the player, 25 spell power vs 60 mp5 and a few intellect difference. During the night my mana regen was ridiculously high, so my hope is that this puts me in a better position for hard-mode progression (our current goal as a guild) to negate any mana issues I might have down the line. I am going to look to get another throughput trinket to use instead of the mana regen/conserve one that I have to swap as needed from boss to boss when I feel I don't need all that regen. This also opens up the option for me to innervate other people now like our SV hunter who burns mana like crazy but puts up some really serious dps.