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Old 01/21/09, 7:01 AM   #301
Playered
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[Idol of the Raven Goddess] seems to be broken and does not grant +healing to your spells (yes while in Tree form).

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Old 01/21/09, 7:12 AM   #302
Nathanyel
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Originally Posted by Playered View Post
[Idol of the Raven Goddess] seems to be broken and does not grant +healing to your spells (yes while in Tree form).
Yeah, this has been mentioned here before, but I never noticed a blue reaction.

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Old 01/21/09, 7:31 AM   #303
Celeras
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Garithos
Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
Anyone got numbers? Seems like both Worship and Ravenous Beast would be pretty similiar for PvE DPS. Test dummy 3 minute rotation showed 60 rip ticks, 44 shreds. Shred idol is more damage-per-shred then rip idol is damage-per-tick. Seems like it would even itself out.
Seems like I was right on, here's what Toskk says:

Shred Idol: DPS = 3546.8967
Rip Idol: DPS = 3546.1074

lol.

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Old 01/21/09, 11:00 AM   #304
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I did Malygos 10-man just now and I couldn't use Wild Growth while in the vortex. It said "Invalid Target". Anyone knows why this isn't working or is it just a bug?


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Old 01/21/09, 11:32 AM   #305
Arentios
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Originally Posted by Norfair View Post
I did Malygos 10-man just now and I couldn't use Wild Growth while in the vortex. It said "Invalid Target". Anyone knows why this isn't working or is it just a bug?
The same thing happens with Circle of Healing. There has not been a blue post declaring this as a bug or working as intended.

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Old 01/21/09, 11:49 AM   #306
Diameter
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[Adamantite Weightstone] can no longer be applied to level 80 weapons. I never saw a blue post or patch note specifically saying they had fixed this, but tested it on the live servers last night. I was unable to apply the weapon buff.

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Old 01/21/09, 2:02 PM   #307
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Hellscream
For anyone wondering, the new formula for calculating bear armor is as follows. I rounded to a whole number after each multiplier for simplicity.

A=Base white armor value of cloth and leather armor. This includes cloaks even if its not stated as cloth or leather in the tool tip.
For Thick Hide A*1.1=B
SoTF B*1.66=C
Meta Gem C*1.02=D
Dire bear form D*3.7+D=E
Take E and add Imp GoTW (1050)+ bonus armor from items (weapons+rings+trinkets+necks+armor enchants+armor kits++ take the Green armor values on leather and cloth and subtract the base armor) + armor contribution from agi (as stated on your character sheet when mousing over Agility)

That will be your armor in bear form. using this formula my theorized armor was only 3 more armor then the character sheet states.

In practice here is my armor value. remember to round to a whole number
3336*1.1= 3670
3670*1.66= 6092
6092*1.02= 6214
6214*3.7+6215=29206
29206+1050+2128+1166=33550. My character sheet displays 33547 that's as close as its gonna get to a simple formula without dealing with 6 decimal places.
here is another way to look at it
base*1.1*1.66*1.02=A
A*3.7+A+Bonus's=Bear armor

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Old 01/21/09, 2:10 PM   #308
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The metagem multiplies ALL armor, not just base cloth and leather. So take the metagem calculation and multiply it at the very end.

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Old 01/21/09, 4:06 PM   #309
Ezarg
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Uldum
From my yesterday Naxx run and some quick testing it appears that [Majestic Dragon Figurine] does not proc off instant-cast spells anymore (read can't get a stack with Lifebloom). Back to [Spirit-World Glass] for now...

I opened a ticket - can anyone else confirm this?

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Old 01/21/09, 4:11 PM   #310
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Originally Posted by Ezarg View Post
From my yesterday Naxx run and some quick testing it appears that [Majestic Dragon Figurine] does not proc off instant-cast spells anymore (read can't get a stack with Lifebloom). Back to [Spirit-World Glass] for now...

I opened a ticket - can anyone else confirm this?
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - Majestic Dragon Fig - Intended nerf or bug?

On the other hand [Illustration of the Dragon Soul] is proc'ing off every tick of each HoT that actually goes off (ie. has effective healing). There has not been any comment (that I have seen) one way or the other on this.

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Old 01/21/09, 5:19 PM   #311
Sunduranin
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Hellscream
Originally Posted by kalbear View Post
The metagem multiplies ALL armor, not just base cloth and leather. So take the metagem calculation and multiply it at the very end.
Increases your armor value from items by 2% So no, it doesn't effect armor from Agi, and f you do the math, it isnt affecting weapons, trinkets, rings, necks, or bonus armor on cloth/leather peices either.

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Old 01/21/09, 5:38 PM   #312
kalbear
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Increases your armor value from items by 2% So no, it doesn't effect armor from Agi, and f you do the math, it isnt affecting weapons, trinkets, rings, necks, or bonus armor on cloth/leather peices either.
if that's the case, it's a change from the PTR and from what blue posts have specifically stated. It shouldn't be hard for me to test; I'll check it out tonight.

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Old 01/21/09, 5:40 PM   #313
Sunduranin
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Hellscream
It might be everything but buffs enchants and agi, which discounts about 2k-3500 armour, which is a loss of 40-70 armor gain with the meta. not too major

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Old 01/21/09, 8:17 PM   #314
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Originally Posted by Arentios View Post
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - Majestic Dragon Fig - Intended nerf or bug?

On the other hand [Illustration of the Dragon Soul] is proc'ing off every tick of each HoT that actually goes off (ie. has effective healing). There has not been any comment (that I have seen) one way or the other on this.
To follow up on this, the MDF changes have been confirmed to be a bugged and will be fixed. No word on whether that's via hotfix or patch, though I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing they can hotfix.

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Old 01/22/09, 3:10 AM   #315
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Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
Seems like I was right on, here's what Toskk says:

Shred Idol: DPS = 3546.8967
Rip Idol: DPS = 3546.1074

lol.

Wouldnt glyphs/talents still make a pure dps rotation using Rip Idol better? In any case for all but a few fights where you never need to move (Patch etc) bleeds should win out as they can tick even if you are out of position.

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