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Old 04/24/09, 7:53 AM   #121
Murna
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Rawr shows [Mjolnir Runestone] a little higher than [Grim Toll] for me.

My impression is, that lots of the new Ulduar items have hit on it, especially the weapon upgrade [Twisted Visage]. So I'm thankful for every Item without Hit, like the mjolnir runestone.

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Old 04/30/09, 7:28 AM   #122
madar
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Only to a side note:

Yesterday i got the [Heart of Iron], and its not on shared cooldown with the [Defender's Code]. Sorry if it was a known thing, but it was a surprise for me.

Last edited by madar : 05/03/09 at 11:24 AM.

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Old 05/02/09, 7:59 PM   #123
Gurrang
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so for now DMC:greatness and the heart of iron are the 2 BiS trinkets? what about the furnace stone from 10 man ulduar? with it being an armor buff would it not be a better clicky for a feral tank? [Furnace Stone]

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Old 05/08/09, 5:04 AM   #124
Rhastah
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What about [Sundial of the Exiled] for kitty dps? Yes the proc is useless, but 84 crit by itself should put it at least at the bottom of the list, especially if you're hit capped, which pushes Grim Toll and other hit trinkets off (or at least farther down) the list.

Would be nice to have it show up in Rawr too, but it doesn't.

I'm in the same boat as Murna, have no problem finding gear with hit on it, my problem is decent kitty trinkets without hit refuse to drop... in this case, [Sundial of the Exiled] may not be that bad of an option.

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Old 05/08/09, 8:38 AM   #125
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84 crit from a clearly caster trinket is a horrible option considering [Battlemaster's Hostility] and [Titan-Forged Rune of Cruelty] are obvious upgrades in that area. [Item not found!], [Darkmoon Card: Death], [Incisor Fragment], [Meteorite Whetstone] all rank even higher, and even while hit capped, [Grim Toll] is still your ~6th best trinket (depending on current ArP)

Honestly you should also be having no problem finding gear without +Hit on it, it's in your best interest to do so if you already have the Grim Toll.

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Old 05/15/09, 5:05 AM   #126
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So, will [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] return to being a BiS trinket due to the ARP changes? Taking [Grim Toll] or [Item not found!] pretty much depending on whether you need the hit or not?

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Old 05/17/09, 1:29 AM   #127
Cliffjumper
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Originally Posted by Jezz View Post
So, will [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] return to being a BiS trinket due to the ARP changes? Taking [Grim Toll] or [Item not found!] pretty much depending on whether you need the hit or not?
Unless I'm mistaken, with the changes to Savage Roar in 3.1 (increase in damage done as opposed to increase in attack power) as well as Rip gaining the ability to crit, [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] is much better than the strength card now. I don't feel qualified to speak to whether the card is a BiS item though. I'd recommend the FeralByNight thread for additional information, as well as using Rawr and Toskk's model.

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Old 05/17/09, 6:26 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by Cliffjumper View Post
Unless I'm mistaken, with the changes to Savage Roar in 3.1 (increase in damage done as opposed to increase in attack power) as well as Rip gaining the ability to crit, [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] is much better than the strength card now. I don't feel qualified to speak to whether the card is a BiS item though. I'd recommend the FeralByNight thread for additional information, as well as using Rawr and Toskk's model.
Yeah, I just used [ ITEM][ /ITEM] tags and apparently the strength card is chosen by default. I was referring to the agility version.

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Old 05/18/09, 12:19 AM   #129
Razrlemon
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Originally Posted by Jezz View Post
So, will [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] return to being a BiS trinket due to the ARP changes? Taking [Grim Toll] or [Item not found!] pretty much depending on whether you need the hit or not?
I am going on the impression that both trinkets proc ontop of each other. Thus in my opinion it would. I loaded up my ideal gear set from Uldar onto Rawr just now. I'm sitting on ~540arp rating, which is approx 45% arp, having [Grim Toll] proc will bump that up to 95%+arp then if [Item not found!] decides to proc while Grim Toll is active,it effectively wastes 45% arp.

However if both trinks proc consecutively rather than ontop of each other, this imo would still make Grim Toll and Runestone BIS trinkets.

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Old 05/21/09, 2:04 PM   #130
knumskul
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Kittycowroar
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Thaurissan
I don't know if this has been asked before as i can't find any definite info on this.

I'm pretty new to feral tanking and an alchemist. I have considered the following trinkets i should use for tanking but haven't obtained any of them except [Indestructible Alchemist Stone]


[Indestructible Alchemist Stone]
[Defender's Code]
[Essence of Gossamer]
[Valor Medal of the First War]

I would like to know which combination of trinkets i should use for certain situations (eg. patchwerk, aoe tanking etc.) and which is the best for just equipping all the time.

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Old 05/22/09, 7:51 AM   #131
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There can't really be a definitive answer. Every fight favors different type of gear, depending on physical vs magic damage taken, fast or slow attacks etc.

Without going into much detail, I'd say Essence of Gossamer and Defender's Code is the best all round combo. Mix and match with the other 2 for stacking stamina or avoidance as needed per fight. And if you can get your hands on the agi darkmoon card, it's better than all of them.

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Old 05/22/09, 9:16 AM   #132
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I changed to 4pt8.5 yesterday, left me severely "under" expertised. And over hit capped.
So I changed my [Pyrite Infuser] to [Mark of Norgannon]

This kicks me back to almost dead on hit capped, still lacking expertise, but its better.
Linked the Mark trinket use with a macro to berserk.

Would you do the same or keep the Pyrite, and be overcapped on hit?

(That 4p bonus better be worth it....)

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Old 05/22/09, 12:20 PM   #133
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Originally Posted by Miim View Post
I changed to 4pt8.5 yesterday, left me severely "under" expertised. And over hit capped.
So I changed my [Pyrite Infuser] to [Mark of Norgannon]

This kicks me back to almost dead on hit capped, still lacking expertise, but its better.
Linked the Mark trinket use with a macro to berserk.

Would you do the same or keep the Pyrite, and be overcapped on hit?

(That 4p bonus better be worth it....)
In my opinion, the way you swapped your gear around is probably correct. Your biggest problem in gear seems to be the chest; compared with other items in that slot ([Chestguard of the Recluse] and [Winter's Icy Embrace]) you pick up a ton of unneeded hit and lack the expertise of the two other chests. I'm using Recluse at the moment and examining my options for if/when I pick up Embrace, but that seems to be the slot that you could change and get back to using the Pyrite Infuser.

Of course, that would also mean you would need to grab a T8 shoulder token to keep your set bonus.

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Old 05/23/09, 9:27 AM   #134
halmmar
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Originally Posted by Miim View Post
... [Mark of Norgannon]

This kicks me back to almost dead on hit capped, still lacking expertise, but its better.
Linked the Mark trinket use with a macro to berserk.
There's no benefit from using haste with berserk unless you're on a boss that requires you to burst out max DPS in a small time frame (say Yogg brain or Vezax hard). (Haste procs OoC, Berserk doesn't reduce energy costs when you have OoC up).

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Old 05/25/09, 10:49 AM   #135
Gallowglass
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Originally Posted by halmmar View Post
There's no benefit from using haste with berserk unless you're on a boss that requires you to burst out max DPS in a small time frame (say Yogg brain or Vezax hard). (Haste procs OoC, Berserk doesn't reduce energy costs when you have OoC up).
Id recommend macroing it into tigers fury as the increased damage from TF and haste WILL stack, also, with beserk on a 3min CD and trinket on 2, you would be "wasting" trinket usage, whereas with TF on a 30 second cooldown, the trinket will see much better usage.

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