EDIT: ignore below, playered did a real test and answered our worries.




The patch notes say that living seed now uses our INEFFECTIVE amount.

He healed for 100% overheal, 100% ineffective, so according to the patch notes, of course it's the full amount and his math is correct.


The worry is that it isn't based off total heal, just ineffective. We need to see heals that are partially effective/partially overheal, and if the seed is still based off the TOTAL heal amount (and not how much was effective like now, or how much was ineffective like the notes seem to indicate) we're ok.

His test confirmed that the patch note is correct, but it didn't confirm whether it's a typo or not and whether we're all getting what we want.

This is a communication failure from mmo-champion. The notes on the third party site state, "Living Seed: This talent now accounts for your ineffective healing, rather than effective" which indicates that the seed is 30% of overheal whereas the official patch notes state, "Living Seed: This talent now accounts for total healing including overhealing" which indicates that living seed is 30% of the total crit heal regardless of overhealing/effective healing. This is supported by BOTH Nofair and Playered. Nofair's test had both overhealing and effective. The moral of the story: third party sites are not always accurate.

Currently, Wild Growth isn't included on Revitalize's tooltip, but it is affected by it now. Each 1s tick can proc, I saw a few back-to-back ones. Both Rejuv and WG can proc Revitalize at 100% hp. It's nice, but I'm thinking I would rather put those points into Tranquil Spirit now.

I do not think you realize just how incredibly overpowered the Wild Growth aspect of Revitalize is at the current % (same as RJ?)
I want it nerfed as soon as possible because it will put us in a situation where we are 'forced' to use Wild Growth on cooldown every cooldown AoE damage or not.

Something like 15% on RJ/RG and 5% on Wild Growth (and possibly Lifebloom too) would be a much better situation to be in as it turns things back to "perk of using ability x when needed" rather than "reason to use ability x as often as possible".

I doubt there will be stacking. Maybe druids stacking sounds good for progress fights (Rebirth/Innervates) but Wild Growth revitalize being the reason for it is far from reasonable. The power regen from this ability is not huge for some DPS and it can't be controlled sometimes (pets/minions), plus, Wild Growth isn't a cheap ability to use, specially considering the new mana changes.

I hope they completely redesign Replenish, and give us something like they gave warlocks; a chance to crit with our hots, probably something based on our current crit so it doesn't sounds like an OP talent.

If left at the current rate, each wild growth cast will get on average, 105% of the revitalize effect. With the glyph, this can hit six people.

If used on six casters with mana pools of 20,000, this would restore an average total of 1260 mana, more than the cost of the actual spell. Distrubuted among 6 players of course.

Doesn't quite seem right.

Revitalize on live, on rejuvenation gives you 90% of the revitalize effect on a single target. With wild growth, it gets about 7x the total effect.

I would think it would make more sense to have rejuvenation be 20-25% per tick, and wild growth be 5%. Something like that.


edit: At the risk of having a thousand posts just saying "I'll use x, y, and z glyph" I will say the new restoration glyphs make for some interesting choices.

Essentially I'll have four glyphs: Swiftmend, Regrowth, Wild Growth, and Nourish glyphs competing for three slots. Others may value the lifebloom glyph as well.

I doubt I could live without swiftmend, Regrowth, wild growth, and nourish glyphs are all nearly 20% situational boosts to the respective spells. I think it would all come down to the content I'm doing. A sixth target on wild growth may not be terribly useful in a 10 man for example.

I can actually see ending up with two resto specs using the dual spec system just to cover two different glyph combinations for different encounter styles. We have Nourish/Regrowth/Wild Growth/Innervate/Lifebloom/Swiftmend for potentially very useful glyphs. There's a significant amount of headache trying to pick just three for general use.

We haven't seen the item that Inscription will produce to allow on the fly Dual spec changes, but considering you can do it at a Lexicon of Power in town, it's not outside the realm of possibility that the item will also allow Glyph changes in the field, allowing people to use Glyphs more like consumables.

In the current incarnation of dual spec it is just a 5s cast time and does not require a lexicon. Apparently the mobile lexicon is still up in the air if they plan to keep it. Blue post source

The main glyphs, in the current state, would be Swiftmend (which I think is pretty much mandatory, especially if you have more than one restoration druid in your raid), Regrowth, Nourish, Wild Growth, Lifebloom and Innervate (on very mana constrained encounters maybe ?). Regrowth and Nourish I find pretty antithetical and will be mainly used on a tank healing assignment. Wild Growth is pretty straightforward, and will be used for any encounter where raid damage outweighs tank damage. I personnally like Lifebloom but it's the one that I think we will free us from. Innervate on very constrained mana situation maybe, the maths will decide the fall or the rise of this one.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with what they did so far, if I don't glance at priests' changes too much.

Blizzard has stated that in order to use dual spec, players should use a Lexicon of Power, which can be created by inscribers and used by anyone. Therefore it is safe to assume that changing glyphs in the field will be a possiblity.