At almost every fight (killed all bosses except Vezax, Yogg and Ignis) I did use my Innervate and sometimes a pot too. But that's with keeping Lifebloom up. Rolling LB on multiple tanks is possible too, as long as you go back to just 1 tank when mana is starting to get tight. So far I had little mana problems, but then again we didn't do any hard modes yet.

That was me, and quite a few people disagreed at the time. Funny to see people starting to come around now that Ulduar is actually out. Rejuv is by far our best spell and we'll be leveraging it as much as possible on every fight.

I was also posting that on the official WoW-forums, and was promptly laughed out. I guess they will see what it's about now...

I definately am loving the seeds. But it depends on the encounter. We stand before Mimiron now, and there are many bosses that have big spike dmg on a person in the raid. (like slag pot@ignis, the fist thing @kologarn, and many abilities from mimiron etc) And in those situations its just very nice to pump nourish into those targets and even if its overheal you still get those living seeds, making nourish pretty strong in those situations.

Regarding revitalize, i kept hots up on a rogues, i think it was kologarn, and he regged ~200 energie through the whole encounter. I dont know how much dps that is, but i guess its pretty decent. But thats when i really focus on keeping reju+wg up. So in a normal fight were you hot for heal and not for revitalize proccs the number would be lower.

The information comes from recount, wws seems buggy atm sais the guy that does that in our guild.

I also mentioned earlier in the PTR cycle that RJ should have been looked at before 3.1 went live (rather than LB) if they were worried about output.

There are far more fights where heavily using RJ is not only strong but really sustainable even when using it near every GCD. Hard modes with high levels of raid damage (ie: Iron Council) will be so brutally obvious at pointing out how powerful it is that I don't doubt there will be lots of forum QQ about it and this is before you even take the 4T8 into consideration.

We will see how things pan out over the next month or so as people start attempting the hard modes and as Druids start getting 4T8 and that trinket but if not before then when 3.2 hits the PTR the first thing I would expect is a nerf to the cost of the spell and/or to the Idol because it will end up dominating our play style and our other spells by a large margin.


[e] For the above the mana restore from LB works the same as all other functions of it (ie: Illumination).
The restore is based on the base mana of the spell and ignores any cost reduction function you have. OOC will make the spell cost 0 mana and when it expires it will still give you 490~ back.

My guild has been having problems with Razorscale, and it seems to be in part a healing issue. My style of healing has been spamming nourish every GCD, which I absolutely hate having to do since it just doesn't feel druid-like to me. What styles of healing have you guys been doing?
Our set up pretty much has 4 healers (me, 2 resto shammies and a holy priest) on raid heals. There are 2 priests and a pally that are mainly healing tanks with minimal raid heals. Watching their mana I think they could help out a bit more with raid heals however. Should I try to convince them to help out more with raid heals and I try to shift into more of a HoT everyone role? Or would rejuvs still not help out much against that kind of damage (those back to back fireballs are especially nasty)?

On Razorscale, the key to not losing anyone is getting the damage healed fast. Druids have the worst fast healing; have them heal the tanks. Let Paladins and Shamans snipe away at the raid damage.

What's wrong with Regrowth? I found it a great 'fast heal' for Razor. And the best part is the hot does a lot of healing later after the target takes random damage. I was very competitive with our holy priests on raid healing on Razor.

Regrowth is way too slow of a heal. If you want to "snipe" heal as it is so eloquently put, you need to healing touch glyph up, baby. Competing with holy priests at the moment is no achievement, compete with a good paladin and get back to me. Priests are much stronger as disc now, and therefore the meters will really lie about how much effect they're having.

I did Razorscale as HT glyph spec, and it worked fine for raid healing. It certainly felt incredibly inefficient to spam HT all over the place, but once the fight got under control it was great for sniping those fireball hits. Mana wasn't an issue.

On Thursday night on Razorscale I was on raid healing with another resto druid and a holy/disc priest. Raid healing felt a little wierd after the changes and had to adapt a lot from "spamming LB and WG raid heals with Nourish here and there" to "let's just stop here and think about it because mana is running low way too quick" and it didn't feel efficient enough either. Topping the healing meter was not too difficult but that should not be the point.

We went in 10 man and I was on raid healing again and changed a little tactic there. I started using Regrowth with stacking LB on tanks and using Rejuv in combo with Regrowth and threw some quick Nourish where it was needed and it worked out a lot better and it felt a lot better as well, and on top of it it seemed to be mana efficient as well.

On 10 man XT-002 just roughly from judging when tantrum was about to come, also on raid healing, used Regrowth again on everyone and it worked like a charm with Rejuv and Nourish again on the help.

My question is, as I just rerolled from a hunter for WotLK ... Is this something considered a good, efficient rotation for raid healing or there isn't such thing as long as your raid stays alive and the job is done no matter what we use? Or is there something more efficient way of raid healing with the new changes?


Thanks,

C.