My personal style of healing @razorscale evolves around using RG as a semi-quick burstheal and using nourish on targets with RG hots on them, thrown in an occasional Rejuv/Swiftmend combo. We are quite melee heavy, so WG those camps standing in spawning fire, followed by Nourish-spam seems like an good idea too.

Sadly, we werent able to down him yet - the combination of total lack of holypalas and semi-gimpness in movement was a bit to davasting... not even talking about some laughable dpsler.

Concering my manaefficency, im quite satisfied. Im using the Innervate glyphe and might be gemmed a bit to much towards regeneration, but compared to our disci-priests, im really doing well. Currently im using 4pT7.5 (i already loved nourish pre 3.1, however aint totally sure if the glyph will be worth it), best in slot offset pieces for even more regeneration are sitting in my bags.

Our Wow Web Stats is sadly a bit buggy and combined all our razorscale tries into one. I gotta note that Lokh and Trefies were partially dealing dmg, nevertheless im a bit dissapointed by the rest of our healing crew (hopefully the meters are wrong aka bugged)



Concerning 10man Ulduar, we downed everything till Hodir, including Ignis. I initial hoped to use a 2tank/2 healer setup, however paired with the disci-priest Dalaya it didnt really work out well so our eleschami had to help healing @ ignis, razorscale and hodir.
I didnt get a wws there, but i hope, wws or recount will support disci-absorbs in a futur version (and add druids hots as overheal, im quite curious how that would turn out). Looking at recount, i was pulling 4k+ hps on ignis, while our disci sat at 1.6k while our resto sat at 2.5-3k... ofc i know, hps arent really comparable and totally ignoring absorbs, reduced dmg, etc, but nevertheless those numbers in combination with the situation that we had to deal with ignis using 3 healers, made me wonder...
After seeing the first part of ulduar, 10man boss fights seem to be quite raid dmg heavy, and light on boss dmg. Thus the best partner for a Restodruid in a 2healer setup would probably be an restoshami/holypriest. Has anyone else got the same feeling?



And on a Side-Note:

I use the following macros for my healing spells:
It always worked fine (healing mouseover-targets, my target, myself if one of those existed), as i tend to target bosses and to mainly heal via mouseover, but on razorscale, i started to get "outofrange" errors when she was out of range and i tried to heal my raidmates standing literally next to me.
The strange thing however, that these outofrange errors only occur when im using my wildgrowth-macro; every other cast works and lands on my mouseover targets, wether the mob i target is in range or not.

Has anyone got similar problems or even a solution? (maybe a conditional range-check api, i could use in my macros?)
Help would be apreciatet

Thanks for your sidenote on my sidenote - to be honest, that was some new information.

And concerning the macro: My goal is to be independent from clique by using macros which give me roughtly the same functionality.

does the following (asPloppy correctly assumed):

When i mouseover a friendly target, he will get healed.
When i dont mouseover, my friendly target will get healed.
When i neither mouseover, nor target anything or a harmfull target, ill heal myself.

Usually, when i target an enemy lets say 100 yards away, it will still heal whomever i mouseover or otherwise myself (with eg rejuv, nourish, etc).
Wildgrowth however, starts to get an "out of range error" and doesnt heal anyone - probably since it can be targeted on enemy mobs and heal players standing around him, as Plobby suggested?

Nevertheless... i thought the macro-syntax [target=target, help] would prevent wildgrowth from being cast on harmful targets and prioritize it through the pre-condition [target=mouseover,help] onto mouseover targets.
Which, outside from "theory-programming", doesnt work for wildgrowth (out of range). For every other cast, however, it does work.

tbh, this error is only a minor setback, since it only concerns wildgrowth, but prevents me as a raidleader from targeting mobs out of healrange, specially razorscale - and casting wildgrowth simultaniously via mouseover. (yeah i know, there exists focus-frame)

Why are we promoting sniping, this is not the mark of a good healer. Rather, you have since wasted the time and mana of another healer at the expense of looking better on your own healing meter. Roll a DPS character if you feel the need to be competitive based on how large your meter is.

@ Rijndael

Regrowth might hit for more individually, but a non hotted Nourish is better in terms of both HPS and HPM. A hotted Nourish destroys it, and thanks to a glyph and/or 4p t8 Bonus, the comparison is a pale one. Its only advantage is its long swiftmendable hot. However, the HoT portion heals for so little, to include it as an asset for any reason other than its ability to be swiftmended is fairly weak (Worth mentioning, but I'd consider it a mild bonus in most cases). In my own 3.1 experience, A regrowth cast on the tank once every 27 seconds seems to be its most worthwhile use, as it does leave an extreamly long hot that provides the bonus to Nourish. Regrowth might not be dead, but unless many targets are taking steady damage over the duration of a fight, its use as a raid heal isn't optimal.

@ ZoleeTee

There is no such thing as a healing rotation when it comes to raid healing. Making the switch from a hunter (or any other DPS spec) where a large part of being the best IS nailing your rotation, to a healer class where no said rotations exist can be challenging. You do have spells that are more efficient at raid healing than others though, but this largely depends on the type of damage people are taking. Due to its light cost, and heavy hotting HoT, Rejuvenation is seen as our go-to raid heal. If/when you are fortunate enough to get 4p of t8, this will only become better, as it will hit instantly. If multiple targets are taking damage, obviously Wild Growth is useful. If a single target is taking large amounts of damage (raid healing) then;

Rejuv/Swiftmend (Or just swiftmend if the target is already hotted)
Nature's Swiftness/Healing Touch, (If they are going to die unless you do something immediately)
Nourish (If they are likely going to take damage again shortly, Swiftmend is on cooldown, but they have more than a sliver of life left)

all work well in handling raid damage, but I would rank them in that order. Otherwise just let Rejuvenation do its thing. As it's been repeated over and over again, except in very specific cases, lifebloom does not make a good raid heal, and due to its high cost, I am generally not a fan of Regrowth.

On Razorscale the raid damage is either A: them getting hit by the direct attack B: them standing in the fire or C: them aggroing adds. A only kills when mixed with the other two, B only kills when they are slow and C only kills when the tanks are slow. So, we're looking at A hitting then B hitting, or B hitting and them think it's A and then running out a bit slow. Either way they take all the damage within 2seconds of the initial hit. Now, unless you have reactions of a god and a LAN connection to the servers you're not gonna land your regrowth within 2 seconds of the first instant they take damage. So if you're going to use regrowth, you're basically just as well off using unglyphed healing touch, it'll save just about as many people.

Glyphed Healing Touch is not 0.5sec off Regrowth unless your Regrowth is a 1sec cast, glyphed HT is always 50% cast time of Regrowth, no matter how much haste you got. If you want to have a heal effect with a HoT, cast Rejuv then Nourish - it's significantly better than Regrowth if you don't have to worry about time. I'm sorry but, the age of Regrowth spam is dead and gone for anything more than the extra HoT component - which I have to admit is still nice as it lasts ages. Basically Nourish has every advantage Regrowth had, except the HoT.

The definition of sniping has changed, it apparently now means "quick healing back" rather than "taking heals from others". The idea of people being on raid healing is that they are assigned to certain areas/members of the raid to stop overhealing (multiple healers healing the same person). If a druid is assigned raid healing on Razorscale, I honestly can't see anything that will work other than glyphed HT for saving people, as I discussed above in this post, there simply isn't the time to wait for a regrowth to cast and nourish simply isn't worthwhile without a HoT. The way I raid heal on Deconstructor is to rejuv my assigned people constantly and nourish/SM them, works wonders - but Razorscale is such a movement based fight that you can bet part of your group is out of range.

? I healed ulduar as a resto druid and I was #1 the whole entire time. The classes are very balanced atm, if you are lower than another healer its because either 1. You weren't give a large enough assignment or 2. The other healers are more skilled.

The conditional "[]" means "whomever the spell would normally have targeted." In interface options, you can set heals to heal yourself if your target is not healable. That means you can shorten this to

/use [target=mouseover,help][] <Spell>

I tend to use

/use [target=mouseover,help,nodead][] <Spell>

I've been told that the "nodead" isn't necessary, but I'm not sure (and most of the time it won't matter).


I've seen several posts where people say Wild Growth fails if your target (not just Wild Growth's target) is out of range. If that is correct, a fix (not tested) should be

/target [target=mouseover][]
/use Wild Growth
/targetlasttarget

I'd like to echo that. I was a bit frustrated when I thought about the crit nerf to imp regrowth, until I checked the healing distribution from our raid (Council-Hodir-Thorim-Ignis-Freya). The HoT portion of regrowth accounted for 80% of the healing (and yet again showing how laughable crit rating is for us).

Healing faster on Razorscale is not snipping. Heck, calling healing faster snipping is just ridiculous. The purpose of a healer is to heal its target in the fastest way possible. Maybe you should try out some of the fights before mocking others on the way they heal there.

As for regrowth, see above.

Ignoring the t8 bonus, spamming lb is still going to be the way to raid heal consistent damage(in between WG cds of course). I found this to be the best course of action for Stormbreakers Aura/Hodir's Frozen Blows. And on predictable raid damage like frozen blows, I found myself getting a 2 stack of blooms on as many people as possible beforehand. It really was quite effective, the added power of blooms is nothing to sneeze at. Without crits, it's pretty much an on-demand 6k heal to as many as 7-10 people. Which to me outways possibly being ready with a swiftmend.

Of course, once the T8 4pc is factored in... I have no doubt this will become obsolete as spamming rejuv's is going to be incredible. Though a mix of pre-blooming before the damage + rejuving while its occuring will probably be most effective.

I have the same problem with Wild Growth on Razorscale, but I am using Clique. Seems to be a bug, but I haven't seen it addressed elsewhere yet.

Whatever you are smoking, I want some.


My guild is all the way up to Yoggy and Spamming LB is NOT the way to raid heal anymore. It just doesn't work well. Using Rejuv (even without the t8.5 set bonus), regrowth, and the occasional Nourish to top them off works much better. Mana efficiency plays a big roll in the major fights in Ulduar now, and LB stacking on multiple targets is no longer mana efficient. Stacking LB on a main tank, however, is still the best way to go.

Last night I too encountered the outofrange error for a brief time when casting Wild Growth on any friendly target including myself. Changing targets, using WG set up with Clique or pressing the WG icon on my cast bar made no difference. Weird.