Oh my god...that's fireworls for melees...

I don't like DKs with all their epilepsy-tearing abilities; meanwhile, we would need a cast to "blacken" all the "nice" action going on.

What a pity that we need maximum casting details for some boss fights

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Nice post, but Glyph of Focus is a major glyph, not a minor.

Black Magic is 24 dps, how is that going to ever be better than 63 spellpower?

I've read it is 209 to 231 damage every three seconds, and it refreshes in such a way that it doesn't clip.

so wouldn't that equate to approximately 70 dps?

EDIT: I didn't realize there was a cooldown on the dot. So you would most certainly be correct.

The first post lists +46 spdm food as the food of choice. I've been using +40 hit food, since gemming for hit is 16 hit vs 19 spellpower (.8421) where eating for hit instead is 40 hit vs 46 spellpower (.8696). It seems to me I'm getting more value out of the food than the gems.

Am I missing something significant with this strategy?

1) I gave 12% as a rough estimate of where 1% haste and 1% crit are equal. But haste is much cheaper than crit on gear, so gemming/gearing for haste rating is essentially always superior to crit rating.

2) It does, but the GCD cannot go below 1s. Since Wrath easily goes below this under Bloodlust or NG, you clip frequently when casting it.

The analysis is correct, just that it's nearly identical and most people wouldn't want to rely on a spice food to reach hit cap anyway. Also, once you're well-geared, it's pretty hard to be 40 under the cap in the first place.

Also, if you die and get rezzed mid-combat then you're 40 hit rating shirt, which is a lot.

So Owlkin Frenzy is obsolete?

From eyeballing it, it looks a lot better than say, Celestial Focus.

I take it you're overlooking the 3% haste from Celestial Focus then? Owlkin Frenzy may have a couple fights where it would be useful(read: actually proc), but in the end 3% haste will do a lot more for you.

http://elitistjerks.com/1053427-post39.html

To compare 3 points in Celestrial Focus is worth around 2.6% - I cant think of any realistic scenario that would make Owlkin Frenzy come even close to what.

I started naxx with Owlkin Frenzy, but dropped it after a couple of raids. I wasn't gettting many procs, because there just isn't a ton of raid wide damage in Naxx like there was in SWP and BT. On top of that, how many bosses hit you twice in 10 seconds to take advantage of the pushback resistance? I haven't looked it up but I doubt it is many.

The only thing I could really see using it for right now is Sarth 3D.

I can’t decide what idol to use in 10man raiding. My choices are Idol of Steadfast Renewal, Ivory Idol of the Moongoddess and Idol of the Unseen Moon. I use the rotation described in this guide IFF->IS->MF->W*x->Eclipse proc -> SF*x etc. Any thoughts appreciated.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but I swear I remember reading a blue post from GC, stating that NG had been changed so that, it reduced the gcd of wrath to .5 sec. >.>

Brings me to another question, if I only have the wrath idol but not yet the SF, should I use wrath as filler if eclipse is on cd?
S : iff->IS->MF->w*x->eclipse proc->SF till eclipse is over->W ?

You're wrong. It reduces it to 1 second, which is the hard cap for ALL spells.

Just wanted to say Thank you to Ashaera for this guide. great work.

I was wondering if anyone could spot what im doing wrong, since im having some dps troubles.

I have read all the Moonkin-guide threads on these forums, but i can't seem to finde the solutions.

I just joinied a 25man raiding-guild a couple of weeks ago, but im having a hard time making the transition from 10man to 25man.
In 10man raids im usually on par with most other players, but since i started doing 25man i feel im lacking behind in DPS.

I have tried different rotations but because of lag and other variables its hard for me to get a clear picture of what is wrong.

I normally use this rotation:

(IFF) > MF > IS > Wrath till eclipse. Then reapply MF if its low or just start spamming SF. When Eclipse is done and while its on internal cooldown i reapply MF and IS and keep spamming SF.
When the internal eclipse CD runs out i start spamming wrath again to proc eclipse.

Normally i'm doing around 3k dps, but when i see ppl post on these forums and on the official wow forums, it seems they can do +4k without breaking a sweat.

here is my armory profile:
The World of Warcraft Armory

And some WWS:
Wow Web Stats

You might call me a noob and thats ok, but i would appreciate if anyone could give me some advise on what im doing wrong.

The WWS is just a generic to the base page...

Going by armory:
1. Spell penetration has 0 PvE benefit
2. Do you need every single mana regen talent in your 25 mans?

Hard to help much more than that without seeing a WWS, and just to clarify:

IS, MF, Wrath till eclipse procs (refresh both DoTs if they fall off before a proc), Spam SF during eclipse, and until the iCD is up. Refresh MF and IS as needed during this time, repeat.

WWS link corrected.

Just a few more thoughts for you:

Talents: it seems you've cleaned up your talents some already? If you're worried about single target boss dps you could drop galewinds and put points in something like Celestial focus (which increases spell haste by 1% per point). Of course you won't look as good on trash.. I personally don't care about trash buutt you may.

also if someone else is doing improved mark of the wild -- you can theoretically get 2 points in push-back reduction on wrath.... it isn't much and won't increase dps on things like patchwerk.. but on fights where there is AOE damage (thaddius, grobbulus's slimes) it will add to your damage.

Gear: you are over your hit cap (with misery or improved faerie fire) by 22 points from your current armory page(?). There are some upgrades for you in heroics still..... better caster rings than the signet of hopeful light... perhaps the epic wrist cuffs that are +50crit and +59 spell (since you are curerntly over hit cap). And as a general note: anything with spirit will be lacking in some other dps stat vs. another piece of gear out there...... You seem to understand this, and I know spirit can be hard to avoid (or some pieces that have it are still best in slot), but it's something to keep in mind...

also -- as the prior poster said -- spell penetration won't help you with dps..

Sooo these are very minor changes. If you are still having dps problems I would wonder who is in your raid group -- do you have a shammy? Do you have improved scorch (that 10% crit debuff is Huge for moonkin dps). etc. Are you using the right glyphs? moonfire, starfire, insect swarm?

Looking at Patchwork on the 21st.

You seem to have Splendor (7 ticks per IS), but you never got more than 7 ticks per MF (and sometimes only 4). I don't think you ever want to clip MF, except, perhaps if you are moving or about to be silenced. Overall just 46 DoTs from 9 MF casts is bad.

Same fight, your time between proccing Eclipse and first SF landing was always over 5s, and usually over 5.5s. If it isn't a lag issue, you might try standing at a diffent distance (to adjust wrath travel time).

If it is a lag issue, you might want to watch for Nature's Grace. When you see Nature's Grace, finish the next Wrath, but then switch to SF, anticipating a possible eclipse. By the time SF finishes, you should know if the Wrath crit procced eclipse. If it did, stick with SF, otherwise switch back to Wrath. This will sometimes give you a Wrath Eclipse, instead of a SF eclipse. If it does, just go with it.