Resto UI Discussion - Page 18

Gamepro · 08/10/09, 7:22 AM

I am really liking Eatmorepies's UI so I decided to try Pitbull 4. I configured a lot of it to my liking but there's still certain things I just can't figure out. Hopefully Eatmorepies or other Pitbull 4 users can help me out.

1. It can only get the raid health bars to display "18246/18246" or whatever. I want it to just display "18246" if possible.

2. Any way to have a separate bigger castbar for myself to place wherever I want or do I need another addon for that?

3. Overall, I can't seem to place the groups properly. I want Group 1's members to always be in a certain position, group 2, etc. They all go off in random places or don't display at all.

Thanks if anyone can help me

toiletduck · 08/10/09, 9:08 AM

Looking at screenshots, it seems a lot of people can pan their camera *really* far out (Sarth and players look tiny, almost Diablo 2 esque). Is this a console command or something to allow a further view than the camera distance in options?

Arythorn · 08/10/09, 10:06 AM

As of 3.0, the max distance the camera can go is ~51 yards. The default sets the camera to 15 yards. The game's options for changing the camera distance is a slider that changes cameraDistanceMaxFactor from 0 to 2, allowing a distance of 0 (first person) to 30 yards. To go beyond this:

/console cameraDistanceMax 50
/console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 3.4

Those are the max values these two settings allow, however it'll still cap to ~51 yards due to prior abuse of the mechanic.

Arythorn · 08/10/09, 10:45 AM

Also, while I'm here, figure I'd update on another UI topic I just sorted out:

I've been having trouble retraining my brain on new Innervate. I've gotten so used to popping Innervate at very low mana levels and getting back near to full that I've been very late with the new half innervate twice as often change. Anyway, I've found to get a full use out of the half-Innervate (i.e. not pop it too early so that it takes me above 100% and waste ticks but not so late that it won't be up later when I need it again), I should pop it around 60% mana. My problem has been catching myself at 60% mana while tracking everything else. In steps Power Auras.

The first thought I had was to just do a 60% mana aura but the problem with this is, while it helps the first time you dip to 60%, the next time you hit 60%, Innervate likely won't be back up yet. So you get a pulsing aura that just annoys you until Innervate is off cooldown. But with a little research (and some help from BigZyr on these forums), I found you can do complex auras by linking two together. Sort of an IF, AND setup. I now have an Aura setup to show IF my mana is less than 60% AND Innervate is off cooldown. I found this is working quite well and is allowing me to keep max througput up.

Below are the details on setting this up if anyone is interested:

First, you create an Innervate cooldown aura but set it to OFF. This aura will actually never show but you will reference it's logic in the next aura:

Then you create a 60% mana aura, set it to ON and you reference the number of the Innervate aura. In this case, my Innervate aura is in position 4, so I type in 4:

Happy healing.

Eatmorepies · 08/10/09, 12:19 PM

Here the solutions to your queries

1. It can only get the raid health bars to display "18246/18246" or whatever. I want it to just display "18246" if possible.

If you go to your Text Settings and choose "lua:Power" in the drop down, then in the code box, insert the following

local max = MaxPower(unit)
if max > 0 then
  return (Power(unit))
end

2. Any way to have a separate bigger castbar for myself to place wherever I want or do I need another addon for that?

I Use Quartz addon for this.

3. Overall, I can't seem to place the groups properly. I want Group 1's members to always be in a certain position, group 2, etc. They all go off in random places or don't display at all.

For this one you need to go the Unit Formation tab, then in the sort method drop down choose sort by group

Hope this helps you out.

missinglink · 08/14/09, 11:39 PM

Ive had a little play around with Loui's UI and decided it wasn't what I was after, one aspect I did want however was the bar along the top, which addon provides that? As it doesn't seem to be fubar or titanpanel anyone have any clues?

Supertree · 08/15/09, 2:08 AM

Originally Posted by missinglink

Ive had a little play around with Loui's UI and decided it wasn't what I was after, one aspect I did want however was the bar along the top, which addon provides that? As it doesn't seem to be fubar or titanpanel anyone have any clues?

The bar across the top is the combination of a panel from KG Panels, and information from SL Data Text.

Kaitain · 08/18/09, 5:56 PM

I have been working on my UI over the last few weeks and in doing so I came across a few things that I hope might be of interest for this thread.

The first is a Grid layout method, the second is a new GridStatus addon.

A problem with making my raid frame fit any given layout was that I was never content with the way that a 5 or 10 man group took up a vastly different amount of screen space than a 25 or 40 man group. I realised recently that it's possible to control almost all of the layout/sizing parameters in Grid with macros.

Apologies if that is too obvious to bear mentioning, but I read through (almost) this entire thread and can't find any mention of anyone doing this, and I can see many UI pictures where it seems like it might really help.

A few pics to show what i mean:

I switch between these layouts with a single click with 4 simple macros like this:

/grid gridFrame advanced frameheight 60
/grid gridFrame advanced fontsize 11
/grid gridFrame advanced cornersize 13
/grid gridFrame advanced iconsize 20

...with of course numbers changed for the 4 different layouts.

(as a side note - I edited the GridFrame.lua so that it would let me create frames wider than 100 pixels)

_____________________

The other thing is a new GridStatus addon called
GridStatusControlPipes

It's sort of hard to describe with it does but a brief quote from the wowinterface page might be best:

This addon provides further control possibilities for any other Grid status. By now the following controls are available:

• show or hide status on key press (KeyGuard)
• show or hide status in or out of combat (CombatGuard)
• convert duration status (like aura duration) to min/max value status to be able to display remaining time of auras on bar indicators (like GridManaBars) (ToBarFilter)
• filter status for specific classes (ClassGuard)
• convert color of status to class color (ClassColorFilter)
• aura filter (can be used as debuff white list) (AuraGuard)
• convert value to text (like health) (ToTextFilter)
• threshold filter for values (ThresholdGuard)

If this intrigues you i suggest going to the page linked above and reading all the info there. So far all I have done with it is make the GridManaBars act like Lifebloom timers (which I am pretty sure is possible without GridStatusControlPipes), but I guess that manabar timer can be set to show any buff or debuff. Might be great for a Disc Priest to have all Weakened Soul Debuffs as bar timers on the Grid squares. Or whatever. The threshold values thing seems interesting too.

Over the next few days I'm going to see if I can get it to show centre text as time remaining on MotW buffs only when I hold down a keybind. I'm still trying to think up new uses for it. The concept of it seems quite open-ended.

ganuard · 08/22/09, 6:11 PM

Originally Posted by Arythorn

Also, while I'm here, figure I'd update on another UI topic I just sorted out:

I've been having trouble retraining my brain on new Innervate. I've gotten so used to popping Innervate at very low mana levels and getting back near to full that I've been very late with the new half innervate twice as often change. Anyway, I've found to get a full use out of the half-Innervate (i.e. not pop it too early so that it takes me above 100% and waste ticks but not so late that it won't be up later when I need it again), I should pop it around 60% mana. My problem has been catching myself at 60% mana while tracking everything else. In steps Power Auras.

The first thought I had was to just do a 60% mana aura but the problem with this is, while it helps the first time you dip to 60%, the next time you hit 60%, Innervate likely won't be back up yet. So you get a pulsing aura that just annoys you until Innervate is off cooldown. But with a little research (and some help from BigZyr on these forums), I found you can do complex auras by linking two together. Sort of an IF, AND setup. I now have an Aura setup to show IF my mana is less than 60% AND Innervate is off cooldown. I found this is working quite well and is allowing me to keep max througput up.

Below are the details on setting this up if anyone is interested:

First, you create an Innervate cooldown aura but set it to OFF. This aura will actually never show but you will reference it's logic in the next aura:

Then you create a 60% mana aura, set it to ON and you reference the number of the Innervate aura. In this case, my Innervate aura is in position 4, so I type in 4:

Happy healing.

Thanks for this tip, something I've been wanting to do but didn't know how. I just had it set to show me below 60% mana like you, but as I'm sure you found out that was either annoying or less then helpful.

While we're on the subject, what other notifications do you find Power Aura's helpful for?

Arythorn · 08/23/09, 9:17 AM

Right now, the two other things I'm using auras for are a more noticeable Clearcast proc alert with sound and a more noticeable alert if something drops me below 50% health (also with sound). The Clearcast power aura makes it more likely that I'll catch the proc in time to Lifebloom next cast instead of Rejuv and gain some mana. The health alert is really just more of a gentle prod to take care of myself with next cast before the raid -- dead healers toss no further heals.

I suppose I could use auras to display what cooldowns were up or down as well but ForteXorcist bar is doing a pretty good job of that.

trebs · 08/25/09, 5:05 PM

This is my current WIP, I have only recently rerolled to a druid and it is my first foray into the world of healing (my previous 2 mains were both tanks).

I redesigned my ui from the ground up trying to make it as healer friendly as possible.

(In raid shot)

(Addons list)

Any constructive criticism is always welcome.

Arythorn · 08/27/09, 11:40 AM

Been awhile and I've made quite a few tweaks to get me more visibility / minimize my UI footprint while in raids. Current setup looks like this in raid during a pull:

This basically hides anything I really don't need to see while in a pull and leaves only Grid, Pitbull Self, Target, ToT, Focus frames, ORA2 Tank mod, DBM timers, ForteXorcist cooldowns, and IceHUD visible.

EDIT: Updated to show a screenshot that had focus frame up. Range Display is used to show distance to Focus (right below frame) and distance to mouseover (right above Grid) -- IceHUD is used to show distance to target (above IceHUD). Quartz is used to show self, target, focus cast bars. Pitbull is used for self, target, ToT, and Focus unit frames.

When not in raid, I make other functions like chat, micro/bag menu, mini-map, etc. visible again:

This is accomplished by using the Fader adjustment on Sexymap, invisible on combat portions of Bartender (to make bags and micromenu disappear), and by creating a blank Chatbox tab to hide that during combat.

Hatesfury · 08/27/09, 7:46 PM

Just a couple of questions for you guys.

I'm currently using VuhDo for my healing\click macro needs, and enjoy it very much. I also use x-perl so that i can move things like self, target, tot. I keep seeing people with these windows much more customized that what i have, and would like to get something closer to what you guys are using. It appears after going through many of these screenshots that pitbull is the addon of choice for changing these frames in particular. What i'm wondering\afraid of is:
1) will i be able to disable the pitbull raid frames, I don't want them to interfere with VuhDo
2) what kind of footprint does pitbull have (don't want it if it's bigger than x-perl)

I'm also curious about the DMB warnings\timers. I see a lot of people with moved\enlarged and differently colored DMB bars and alerts. Are you using an addon to force these changes onto DMB, or are these just options i haven't found yet?

trebs · 08/28/09, 7:08 AM

Originally Posted by Hatesfury

Just a couple of questions for you guys.

I'm currently using VuhDo for my healing\click macro needs, and enjoy it very much. I also use x-perl so that i can move things like self, target, tot. I keep seeing people with these windows much more customized that what i have, and would like to get something closer to what you guys are using. It appears after going through many of these screenshots that pitbull is the addon of choice for changing these frames in particular. What i'm wondering\afraid of is:
1) will i be able to disable the pitbull raid frames, I don't want them to interfere with VuhDo
2) what kind of footprint does pitbull have (don't want it if it's bigger than x-perl)

I'm also curious about the DMB warnings\timers. I see a lot of people with moved\enlarged and differently colored DMB bars and alerts. Are you using an addon to force these changes onto DMB, or are these just options i haven't found yet?

Pitbull is modular, so you can disable the raid frames or any frame for that matter from the options menu so it wont interfere with VuhDo (I use grid for my raid frames and have no problems using Pitbull for my player,target,targets target, pet and focus frames.)
Pitbulls memory footprint is fairly small, if you look at the screenshot of my addon list (couple of posts up) you can see Pitbull fully loaded minus raid frames comes out at around 1.5mb which I am quite sure is smaller than x-perl.

As for DBM warnnigs/timers, I personally dont use it for the very reason you describe in your post. DBM can be customized but you are limited on the looks (at least by from in game mod options). For raid warnings I have been using the Deus Vox Encounters beta WoW AddOns - Deus Vox Encounters - WowAce.com and it is really nice and very customizable.

Arythorn · 08/28/09, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by trebs

For raid warnings I have been using the Deus Vox Encounters beta WoW AddOns - Deus Vox Encounters - WowAce.com and it is really nice and very customizable.

Just downloaded this and, at least from a configuration standpoint, it is VERY nice. If it performs in raid and stays updated (seems to be very actively updated at the moment), I will definitely be switching from DBM to Deus.

EDIT: talked to some guildies and they said they ran Deus Vox this week. Feedback was the timers are spot on and it was a great mod all around. I will warn you based on my tour of the mod and guildie feedback, that there are a lot of configurable alarms which can easily freak you out on defaults. You'll probably want to go in and turn some up, turn some down, etc. That was one of the things I really liked though was they had timers on every-fricken-thing. Some may matter more to ranged (like shadow crash), others may matter to someone focused on interrupts more than ranged, others more to a healer than a dps or a tank, etc. but you can go in and turn off the ones you don't care about and turn up and make more noticeable the ones you do care about. I have already stepped through each boss in Ulduar / Colosseum and configured it to my tastes.

Curtdiggler · 08/28/09, 12:15 PM

Arythorn, what addon do you use to tell you range from target?

Arythorn · 08/28/09, 12:34 PM

That's actually part of WoW AddOns - IceHUD - WowAce.com.

I also using something called WoW AddOns - RangeDisplay - WowAce.com. Besides your current target, RangeDisplay can also track range to focus and mouseover targets as well which is handy. I turned off the target portion of RangeDisplay because I like IceHUDs better but it is still very useful for mouseover and focus. I use focus on IC Hard mode for instance to make sure I have range on Overload.

Arythorn · 08/28/09, 2:38 PM

Hm, one thing Dues is missing is a raid member proximity check (a la DBM Range Check). I could load DBM core just for that but I'd prefer to find a proximity checker that does that and only that. Any ideas?

Cougardc · 08/28/09, 9:20 PM

EDIT:

Murphy's Law, as soon as I post, I figure out what I was doing wrong.

Demonspawn · 08/31/09, 9:15 PM

Originally Posted by Arythorn

Been awhile and I've made quite a few tweaks to get me more visibility / minimize my UI footprint while in raids. Current setup looks like this in raid during a pull:

This basically hides anything I really don't need to see while in a pull and leaves only Grid, Pitbull Self, Target, ToT frames, ORA2 Tank mod, DBM timers, ForteXorcist cooldowns, and IceHUD visible.

When not in raid, I make other functions like chat, micro/bag menu, mini-map, etc. visible again:

This is accomplished by using the Fader adjustment on Sexymap, invisible on combat portions of Bartender (to make bags and micromenu disappear), and by creating a blank Chatbox tab to hide that during combat.

I'm attempting to set up a similar UI to what you have. Mostly the same, but slightly different for my own personal tastes.

Two things I can't figure out and would appreciate help with:

1) Where do you get that super-sexy tooltip? (Knight-Captain Arythorn)
2) I can't seem to find what you are using to display your buffs and debuffs. I would have imagined it was something within pitbull, but I'm think I'm wrong.

Arythorn · 08/31/09, 9:46 PM

Tool Tip is from TipTac - Addons - Curse.

Buffs are from SatrinaBuffFrame - Addons - Curse. Well, personal buffs and debuffs that are in top right and left corners. Buffs/debuffs over Pitbull unit frames at bottom are controlled from within Pitbull.

Arlomagno · 09/05/09, 3:09 PM

Hi all.
Recently I've noticed that GridStatusHots doesn't discriminate anymore between my and other druids' hots.
Neither Pitbull nor X-pearl seems to be able to do that on raid frames.
Is there an addon that can do that?
Or maybe a fan update for GridStatusHots?

Hatesfury · 09/05/09, 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by Arlomagno

Hi all.
Recently I've noticed that GridStatusHots doesn't discriminate anymore between my and other druids' hots.
Neither Pitbull nor X-pearl seems to be able to do that on raid frames.
Is there an addon that can do that?
Or maybe a fan update for GridStatusHots?

I haven't healed any this week, but as of last week VuhDo wasn't having any problems seperating heals.

Question: The add-on that puts a numerical counter on top of the spell that is on cooldown, i'd like ot try it, can anyone give me the name please.

Arythorn · 09/05/09, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by Arlomagno

Hi all.
Recently I've noticed that GridStatusHots doesn't discriminate anymore between my and other druids' hots.
Neither Pitbull nor X-pearl seems to be able to do that on raid frames.
Is there an addon that can do that?
Or maybe a fan update for GridStatusHots?

This is the fix (credit to Treebarkjacket blog)

1. Make sure you have the latest version.

2. Open the gridstatushots.lua file in your interface/addons/gridstatushots folder with notepad.

3. Search for the following line:

local bname,brank,btexture,bcount,btype, bdur, bexptime, bismine = UnitBuff(unitid, i)

4. On the line directly underneath it paste:

if bismine == "player" then
bismine = true
else
bismine = false
end

Arythorn · 09/05/09, 7:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hatesfury

I haven't healed any this week, but as of last week VuhDo wasn't having any problems seperating heals.

Question: The add-on that puts a numerical counter on top of the spell that is on cooldown, i'd like ot try it, can anyone give me the name please.

If you are talking about a displaying cooldown time remaining in a numerical format on your bars (bartender, etc.), this will work: Cooldowns - Addons - Curse. Or you can see it in linear, graphical fashion by using ForteXorcist - Addons - Curse. It's preference, but I like Forte better . . . that said, I hid all my bars to free up screen space so I'm pretty much forced that route.