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Old 10/07/09, 4:02 PM   #476
Ultimate87
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Originally Posted by fyren View Post
My new UI

What's the addon next to your recount that is showing your rejuv/wild growth ticks?

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Old 10/08/09, 2:02 AM   #477
Payday
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Shadow Council
Most likely Eavesdrop

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Old 10/10/09, 9:56 PM   #478
zetaminer
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Night Elf Druid
 
Proudmoore
Recently the mana/innervate POWA setup described in previous posts no longer works for me while in resto spec. Oddly it works fine as feral. I've tried making it a global effect instead of just a character effect, I've also tried deleting it and recreating it while in resto, but neither fixed the problem. Anyone seen anything similar or have any suggestions?

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Old 10/11/09, 5:54 AM   #479
Curtdiggler
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Stormreaver
Originally Posted by zetaminer View Post
Recently the mana/innervate POWA setup described in previous posts no longer works for me while in resto spec. Oddly it works fine as feral. I've tried making it a global effect instead of just a character effect, I've also tried deleting it and recreating it while in resto, but neither fixed the problem. Anyone seen anything similar or have any suggestions?
Yes, I am having the same problem. POWA will tell me to innervate at 60% even if my innervate is on cooldown.

How's my healing?
Dial 1(800)USE-APOT

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Old 10/11/09, 10:33 AM   #480
Arythorn
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Wish I had an answer on this one -- I'm the one that posted it originally but I haven't run into any issues with it in mymoonkin or resto specs. I don't have a feral spec so can't speak to that. There hasn't really been an update to Powa for awhile so I can't say to get the latest version. If I were having this issue, I'd first try to fix it by deleting the auras and then setting them up again to see if that fixes it. If that fails, perhaps delete the Powa files under Account/SavedVariables and under Account/%server%/%character name%/SavedVariables and then configure it again.

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Old 10/14/09, 7:18 AM   #481
Nefernet
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You have to be careful with Power aura. There is actually an update on Wow Interface but not on Curse, because the developper changed and the new version is still in beta.
Here is the link to the new version : Power Auras Classic : WoWInterface Downloads : Plug-Ins & Patches
As you can see that one was updated quite recently.

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Old 10/21/09, 4:15 AM   #482
Evillek
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Tauren Druid
 
Drak'thul (EU)
My new resto/moonkin UI:






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Old 10/23/09, 6:41 PM   #483
Hatesfury
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Night Elf Druid
 
Suramar
Evillek... i'm assuming the PC timers are part of DBM (cause it appears that's what you're using).... HOW DID YOU MOVE IT?!?!?! mine comes up and cover my castbar.... plz help

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Old 10/24/09, 3:49 AM   #484
mmolitor87
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Any suggestions and comments are welcome.

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Old 10/25/09, 8:56 AM   #485
grimtage
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Originally Posted by mmolitor87 View Post
Any suggestions and comments are welcome.
Your raid frames are tiny! Considering we spend *most* of our time looking at them and using them, I would've thought you'd make them the main thing to concentrate on your UI just after the ground you're standing on.

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Old 10/25/09, 2:11 PM   #486
Royalite
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Originally Posted by Arythorn View Post
Wish I had an answer on this one -- I'm the one that posted it originally but I haven't run into any issues with it in mymoonkin or resto specs. I don't have a feral spec so can't speak to that. There hasn't really been an update to Powa for awhile so I can't say to get the latest version. If I were having this issue, I'd first try to fix it by deleting the auras and then setting them up again to see if that fixes it. If that fails, perhaps delete the Powa files under Account/SavedVariables and under Account/%server%/%character name%/SavedVariables and then configure it again.
As a previous poster mentioned earlier there is a newer version of power aura. I haven't been able to use the setting you posted earlier with the newer version. I am guessing the settings still work with the older version. I have tried to test and play around with it but I can't seem to get it to work for resto/moonkin for the newer version. The settings are different so when I was initially programming it, I tried to maintain the concepts you were presenting in your example.

If anyone has a working example for the newer version of power aura please post on how you were able to do it.
I hate for the solution to be to go back to the older version. The Dual Spec auras are a great feature.

Last edited by Royalite : 10/25/09 at 2:18 PM. Reason: Clarify

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Old 10/26/09, 3:41 AM   #487
Evillek
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Drak'thul (EU)
Originally Posted by Hatesfury View Post
Evillek... i'm assuming the PC timers are part of DBM (cause it appears that's what you're using).... HOW DID YOU MOVE IT?!?!?! mine comes up and cover my castbar.... plz help
* /dbm - shows/hides the GUI
* /dbm timer <time> <name> - starts a local timer, the time can be in the mm:ss format
* /dbm broadcast timer <time> <name> - broadcasts a timer to the raid
* /dbm unlock - shows a movable timer bar (alias: move)
* /dbm ver - performs a raid-wide version check
* /range or /distance - shows the RangeCheck frame

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Old 10/26/09, 6:54 AM   #488
Atheen
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Emerald Dream (EU)
So, I'm a new grid user. And I did my first 25 man raid using it yesterday. And I came to an issue in the middle of the fight... not very nice...

How can you have the name of the player showing when he/she is dead? As a druid, I was told to BR another healer but for me to find that healer among all the frames of dead players I had to mouseover all of them to check the player's name...

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Old 10/26/09, 8:26 AM   #489
oppewala
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Atheen,
If you don't want the 'dead' text at all, in the Grid -> Frames -> Center Text, uncheck the 'death warning' option.

If you do, however, want the text, do the same as the above, except then go into Grid -> Frames -> Advanced and tick the 'enable center text 2' option. Then go to Grid -> Frames - Center Text 2 and check the 'death warning ption'.

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Old 10/26/09, 8:41 AM   #490
Evillek
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Drak'thul (EU)
I think he can't see name of dead players.. ..

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Old 10/27/09, 2:44 AM   #491
Keeva
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Originally Posted by Evillek View Post
I think he can't see name of dead players.. ..
Yes - because the death warning ("DEAD") is showing up instead of the name - there's only space for one or the other, if you only have one center text enabled.

To fix that, follow oppewala's advice to turn on center text 2.

I use Center Text for player names, and Center Text 2 for DEAD, FD, OFFLINE, health deficit ("-1234"), and Lifebloom timers. This means that no matter what is going on, I can always see the player's name - it's never obscured by other information.

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Old 10/27/09, 3:56 AM   #492
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Random screenies.

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Old 10/27/09, 8:20 PM   #493
Gerronimo
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Healing with pitbull 4 raid frames

I figured I'd post this since I haven't seen many (any?) other druids using pitbull for raid healing. Core of the setup is pitbull 4 and pitbull_aurabar, which enables you to create custom timer bars on individual frames to track buffs/debuffs. As far as I see it this has two advantages over Grid:

1. Hot timer bars, instead of dots or numbers in corners. This is less relevant to other healing classes with fewer spells to accurately track the durations, but with rejuv/regrowth/lifebloom I find it's preferable.

2. It takes less mental 'translation time' to process purely visual cues than numbers or dots. Of course this varies with familiarity with your own setup.

The obvious downside is that pitbull takes quite a bit of time and familiarity to setup and tweak to how you like. However it's incredibly powerful once you're familiar with the options.

Raid in combat, with custom frame highlights for penetrating cold:



Zoomed in explanation of the aurabars on the MT:



Raid out of combat. I leave some space between frames for seeing fire on the ground behind me:



The red frame highlights are set up for all the random debuffs which in effect mean "this person needs heals". Frost Blast, Penetrating Cold, Impale, Legion Flame, Incinerate Flesh etc. I add/remove them depending on the content progression and how much I need to care.

Everything else is pretty self explanatory. I've been slack in tidying up the other aspects of my UI, but seeing as raid frames are the #1 thing I care about a fair bit of time has gone into them. Also- to pre-empt the question about why I have Omen showing- this is an alt run with perenially aggro happy warlocks. Gives me a chance to yell at them before they pull. Recount is for spell use analysis and ego stroking on Twins. Bars are dominos. Only reason I have them showing is that I use the same UI setup for 6 specs across 3 classes and often forget what my bindings are!

Last edited by Gerronimo : 10/27/09 at 8:27 PM.

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Old 10/28/09, 6:12 AM   #494
Atheen
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Night Elf Druid
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Originally Posted by oppewala View Post
Atheen,
If you don't want the 'dead' text at all, in the Grid -> Frames -> Center Text, uncheck the 'death warning' option.

If you do, however, want the text, do the same as the above, except then go into Grid -> Frames -> Advanced and tick the 'enable center text 2' option. Then go to Grid -> Frames - Center Text 2 and check the 'death warning ption'.
Idd, I wanted to see the name of the player and the text "DEAD", it's the minium and all the information I need. It worked perfectly. BRing is a breeze now, ,thanks.

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Old 10/29/09, 1:55 AM   #495
idlikanumber3pl
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While I do agree Pitbull does have some nifty tricks other mods don't have, personal preference kicks in. Maybe up and coming druids who are just starting to play resto, or rather people who are just sick and tired of their old UI. I've been a grid user for so long I couldnt see myself using anything else, but like any progression wow player, I must say I just might try this out.

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Old 10/29/09, 2:26 AM   #496
Gerronimo
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Originally Posted by idlikanumber3pl View Post
While I do agree Pitbull does have some nifty tricks other mods don't have, personal preference kicks in. Maybe up and coming druids who are just starting to play resto, or rather people who are just sick and tired of their old UI. I've been a grid user for so long I couldnt see myself using anything else, but like any progression wow player, I must say I just might try this out.
Good to hear! The genesis for this was the pitbull_lifebloom mod for the older pitbull3. Considering druid in healing in BC revolved around rolling lb on as many tanks as possible I'd been hanging out for aurabar since pb4 was announced. It made keeping lb up on 4 tanks a breeze.

Also- I got a PM asking about the frame highlights. You can edit debuffs/buffs in the Modules > Aura part of the main pb4 menu. From there you can set up a custom list, which you can then apply to individual layouts in the Aura > Highlights tab. This means you can setup different highlights for different frames. It's a bit more complex than the Grid solution but it works ok.

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Old 10/29/09, 8:20 AM   #497
rotanimret
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Antonidas (EU)
I like your way to use pitbull.

I'm using Healbot for years now, as i don't like grid.

Questions i have regarding pitbull are:
- is it possible to add a bar for wild growth? As i nearly never use LB, i might replace that one.
- is klick-casting possible with key-modifiers like in healbot? Possible to use a ns-macro too?
- is it possible to display removable debuffs (curse, poison)?
- Aggro/Maintank/in-out of reach accentuation?
- quickly on/off switchable, fast skin (config)-changing?

I really like these things in healbot, but i need an additional visual-heal-bar, which only shows my actual target. Is pitbull able to show that visual-heal for all players?

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Old 10/29/09, 8:29 PM   #498
Gerronimo
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You can set up bars for any buffs/debuffs to track. I found a wild growth bar a bit extraneous because of the smart heal aspect. It would be good for tracking the cooldown, however I use forteexorcist for that.

Most of the other answers you can find in the pitbull thread here on EJ, the wowace project site, the curse downloads page or this extremely useful tutorial on how to configure layouts and aurabar.

However for quick reference:
I click-cast in combination with Clique. Pitbull4 automatically highlights dispellable debuffs for your class on all frames. So green highlight = poison, purple = curse, red = my custom ones. You can select to display icons as well/instead of if you wish in the auras tab for each layout. Player frames with aggro are displayed as red by default. This can be difficult to see with DKs, so I changed the background colour to grey with names in class colours. You'll need Ora2/3 installed as well to set up maintank frames. You can then setup pitbull tank frames or use the default Ora ones. Out of range alpha comes on pitbull frames by default and is adjustable. Visual heal comes with pitbull by default. Can't remember if you have to switch it on manually. You can set up multiple profiles for multiple toons or for one toon and change them via a macro.

Pitbull 4 can do pretty much everything you want it to. It just takes time to set up once you're familiar with how it works.

edit: Grammar and spelling.

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Old 11/02/09, 1:55 AM   #499
Keeva
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Interesting, I haven't seen people do it that way before. I know some people simply use the corner indicators or borders to indicate when their target has a HoT; I did that for a while, but once I discovered counters, I didn't look back. It wasn't enough anymore just to know that someone had a HoT; I had to know exactly how long was remaining. Having a Lifebloom counter that showed tenths of a second made an enormous difference to me in TBC; it made me realise how clumsy and wasteful I had been before using timers.

I see your Pitbull bars as placed somewhere in the middle - a visual indicator, but not necessarily as precise as counters (because you can't see the actual number of seconds before expiry). Obviously the more you use the bars, the better you would become at judging exactly where 3s or 2s is on the bar.. but I do prefer that little extra detail so I can time things down to fractions of a second.

I agree that visual indicators can cut your reaction time considerably, but I actually think it takes less mental gymnastics to look at a timer that says "9" than to look at a bar and think "that looks like 9 seconds left".

Just out of curiosity - how do you show Lifebloom stacks?

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Old 11/03/09, 12:20 AM   #500
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You're probably right about the mental gymnastics element. With any setup i'd say it's got a lot more to do with familiarity than anything else. I've found that with aussie lag timing refreshing down to anything less than 0.5 seconds simply isn't reliable. You can do it most of the time, but with 250 ping + reaction time any fluctuations can let lifebloom drop. Not nearly as critical these days, but still a bit annoying.

I show lifebloom stacks badly, with a 3 stack of icons under my target, player and focus' target frames. This covers me for 99% of lifebloom use, for instance on the main tank, me, or a person being trained in Faction Champs. I use memory alone for raid healing, but then there's very few occasions I use lb on the raid and most of them are a single application. Touch of dark/lightness, legion flame and the odd spot of 10 man healing.

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