I might have used the wrong expression there. What I meant is that I want to know exactly what happens with any HoTs I put out there and they people they are on until they expire. In addition Zakariya made an excellent point about why the information is important on various raid encounters.

I'm not sure what you mean with your first line. What exactly do you mean your center icon to show, and how would you avoid it from obscuring a lifebloom timer without making the whole thing more cluttered? Other than that, the fact that there are others healing doesn't mean I shouldn't use my abilities as well as I can. This becomes even more obvious in a 10-man situation.

I apologize if this has been linked to previously, but in TBC I originally used this Grid setup tutorial from Phaelia at Resto4life and highly recommend that people new to Grid go through this:

Resto4Life» Blog Archive » Grid: Thinking within the Box(es)

I can honestly say that I have never considered using another mod after getting Grid set up properly. It is amazing how much information it can pack into a relatively small amount of screen real estate.

How does having the dots change colors cause any information overload? They stay in the same place and serve the same purpose (does this target have this HoT?). The only addition is that you can tell if the HoT is about to expire without any additional clutter. If your argument is that it's a bad idea because you can live without it, I'm not sure you'll really get anywhere. You can live without Grid and HoT timers too.

I have not said that the dots were causing information overload, feel free to quote me if I did and I'll correct it. All I said that there are other ways to display that rejuvenation was active beside dots on grid.

My point, was that HoTs not being fire-and-forget is flawed, because (in most fights) the only people you have 100% uptime for your HoTs is tanks. I don't know where your getting anything else from my posts, I'd be happy to correct it otherwise. I definitely have no issue with people using Grid to show the status of thier hots, what people are more comfortable healing with is mostly irrelevant as long as they get it done. Lets not turn this thread into a Grid vs Timer discussion.

As there seemed to be a desire to discuss this more indepth than originally thought this thread has been created and the majority of UI posts from elsewhere have been (or will be soon) moved here in order to have a clear place for people to find and talk about various UI topics.

Again please try and keep things as informative as possible and not fill the thread up with "hi guys i dld grid and tryed it and it waz gud -Restotard lvl 79 Lagchewer" types of posts. If someone provided you with information you were looking for that's great but if that's all you wanted to say in your reply then we can manage without it.

Long time ago I tried a small addon called Lifebloomer. It made the calculations based on your latency and showed when you should refresh the blooming. Thanks to that addon I was able to get used to my 600 latency and still keep my 4 lifeblooms rolling. But... it was horrible to set up and it looked terrible as well.

What I would really like to see is an easier way to keep track of hots, specially lifebloom stacks, on multiple targets. Bars are way too big for that; I'm looking for solutions on that for quite some time. I like to have a clean interface but the timers always mess everything up. I'm using Grid but it doesn't feel reliable; looks like it takes a bit longer than PitBull to update health numbers.

I mainly use Grid and Dotimer to track my HoTs, and I've been having the issue of my screen being completely filled with WG bars. I don't want to turn them completely off, so I was wondering if anyone knew of either a config option, or a .lua hack that would allow me to set up Dotimer to only show the WG bar on one person. It would preferably be my target, if not a random person would work fine. Especially with the cooldown nerf going into effect, knowing how long it has remaining on 1 person is almost as good as on everyone.

Edit. Nevermind, I found I could set it as a party buff and it just shows one bar with a number showing how many people it's on.

I can just off the top of my head think of several cases where your statement is not entirely valid. True many fights you don't have to focus on ten or more targets, but in MOST fights, you are going to be healing more than just the MT/OT.

First let me preface this by stating I have not yet configured Grid properly, so am not using it in raids. I see a couple benefits to grid knowing who is still hotted up. One obviously is effective healing, but secondly, this can be better than having a second innervate or hundreds more MP5.

I say this because contrary to the quoted comment above, there actually are several encounters where you want to have practically 100% uptime on hots to a very large number of people.

The most obvious example is Sapphiron. As a resto druid, I can completely negate the periodic frost damage ticks for an entire 10 man raid by maintaining rejuv on every target. So that is one example that explains effective healing.

Secondly, on the mana gain side, I currently use x-perl, so I only can easily only track my hots on my target and focus, which means I am most likely wasting a TON of mana, refreshing hots on targets that already have hots with half duration remaining or more, simply because it's not that easy to mentally track who has what hot, on a large pool of raid members.

There are many other examples where phases of boss fights this would be a great help, such as pre-hots for Malygos for the cyclone or whatever it's called. Making sure your assigned targets have hots up before the healing window opens on Loetheb, decimate on Gluth.

Heck even wildgrowth in it's current state, if you have a bunch of people at low health, and wildgrowth one player, you don't necessarily know all 4 of the other players that received the hot, so seeing this instantly, can assist you if you need to cast a second one, to avoid re-casting it on a target that currently has it. Of course, this all changes post 3.08, but still it's just another example.

In any case, I think my point is fairly clear. Knowing all this information not only will increase your effective healing, it will save you a boat load of mana, since we still are one of the best raid heal classes in the game, and an addon like grid seems to be a great way to maximize this roll.

You can tell Dotimer to simply ignore Wild Growth as a spell altogether. I did this with trinkets and stuff like Clearcasting that I just don't need to see a timer for.

I've found it difficult to overcome the learning curve of using Grid and either mouseover macros (my hands don't work the movement keys and the spell keys at the same time well) or a Clique-type addon (same issue with modifier keys). I'm not sure what I can do to improve my performance with the setup aside from sucking (more) for a little while until it comes more naturally. Something I'm not eager to do.

I've been using Rewatch, which allows me to click-cast on spell names, and has built-in decursing indicators. The amount of screen real estate is the main drawback for me, but it improves my healing throughput immensely.

reytheist -- How do you bind your keys? If you're moving on WASD and using the (horrible) default keybindings, it's not your hands' fault you can't move and cast well at the same time. Moving your movement to ESDF and binding spells on the letter keys on the left half of the keyboard (and shift-variants) makes all the difference in the world.