Yes, but at the same time they also changed CS to not share DR with all non-passive stuns (essentially flipping their DR category).

edit: Patch 3.0.8 WoW -> Patch Notes -> Current Patch Notes

Most likely doesn't stack with 4T7. Because else, even more so with the Living seed and Imp. Regrowth change, would have to stay with 4T7 way to long (unless the T8 boni are far better :>)

Though, if we go by the "style"-factor, I'd take the t8 over t7 all the way ;D

Our helm got fixed:


Revitalize works with Wild Growth now despite being excluded on the tooltip.
So far I've had between 0-5 procs per Wild Growth on just my self:

Really disappointed not seeing any moonkin love, but I do like the changes to resto and even feral. I would LOVE to see DOT ticks on MF/IS able to crit though, and have Wild Growth given some love like CoH got!

Theoretically yes, maybe, but practically it makes your cycles quite a bit harder and you also shred less on regular cycles due to needing to mangle more often.

Could be a decent tankglyph however.

Seems to be more of a situational thing.

If you have an Arms Warrior (yes they still exist) putting up Trauma, then you can skip the Mangle Glyph and use Berserk Glyph.

If you don't have another feral providing mangle or Arms providing Trauma, then Mangle glyph still sound a little better since it drastically decreases the number of Mangle you need to do.

Tanks aren't concerned about threat on single targets and berserk isn't up enough to be used on multiple targets reliably (and if you have more than 3, you'd use swipe anyway). It may be a tank glyph because there are literally no other useful options, but it's certainly not a strong one.

Since your going to be using mangle every single time it is up as a bear, the mangle glyph is a waste for the most part. Your much better off getting Frenzied Regeneration as a glyph. That increases both the healing from frenzied regeneration and any heals your going to get while its up. Its a very powerful oh !@#$ button and really out weighs any benefit you would get from longer mangle times.

Oh, I can't believe I forgot Frenzied Regeneration. I've been a kitty too long. You are absolutely right, the tanking glyphs should be Maul, Berserk and FR. That is a hugely beneficial panic button.

With the reduced armor, gearing up would be very very different.

We will need:

1. stam
2. strength(AP for shield scaling)
3. agil(crit for proccing shield and dodge)
4. haste(getting more hits = more crits)
5. expertise(hitting faster = more parried/dodge)


In other words, they don't want us to just stam stack all the way, making every kind of melee stats useful for tanking, which ultimately means it is harder to gear urself up with your desired stats.

We are being forced to go for stats we usually dont.


Another way to explain this is blizzard want to slow us down in gearing up. Since we now shares the same loot as rogues/hunter/warrior/pally, we will be wanting those "dps" pieces even more with this change.

Let's hope the bears wont be hated so much by the physical dps.

Before LK threat changes, there is actually one use for STR, to increase threat via dmg output, but ever since LK, it has been useless since threat isn't a problem at all, so STR has become totally useless.

They are now implementing this STR scaling shield with a proc chance for us to ultilize the strength we have in our gears, just like DK's parry scaling.

And this SD shield is pretty much a shield block in disguise. A rather inconsistent and unreliable shield.