Druid Changes Patch 3.1 - Page 35

Cuer · 03/10/09, 5:29 PM

Possible incoming changes to Bear Swipe, or at least thoughts about it, from GC:

We are going to take another look at Swipe. Since we are trying to fix some problems where druids are too good at tanking it seems reasonable to also look at cases where they struggle.

Please don't follow this up a dozen threads that say "My class needs compensation for nerfs too!" We generally don't offer compensation for nerfs since they are supposed to be nerfs. But in this case we are trying to realize our goal of having 4 viable MT classes and druid AE threat generation is cumbersome.

Centarion · 03/10/09, 5:54 PM

Maybe (hopefully?) not just for bear swipe.

Beace · 03/10/09, 7:31 PM

I still maintain that I'm a stronger AoE tank than warriors, will be interesting to see what they come up with in this area if they decide to do changes.

Nitz · 03/10/09, 9:50 PM

They should introduce a Savage Roar - Bear, with a cooldown, for snap AoE / 360° threat. A Bear version of Thunderclap, with an heavier cooldown and appropriate threat numbers.

Moonwhisper · 03/11/09, 8:17 PM

Any news about set bonus for Druid Tier 8 set?
Did anyone got hand on a T8 druid set item during one of the ulduar test phases?
Curious to see what Balance druid can expect

blackhand0114 · 03/12/09, 2:17 AM

Originally Posted by Moonwhisper

Any news about set bonus for Druid Tier 8 set?
Did anyone got hand on a T8 druid set item during one of the ulduar test phases?
Curious to see what Balance druid can expect

No set bonus is out right now. Some of the gear is there but no bonuses attached yet. I doubt we'll see the bonuses until they finish changing around all the classes talent/skill values.

nightcrowler · 03/12/09, 3:46 AM

Does the +25% expertise from expertise rating be a "wanted" PTR mechanic or is it a bug?

Kenshinji · 03/12/09, 4:01 AM

Originally Posted by nightcrowler

Does the +25% expertise from expertise rating be a "wanted" PTR mechanic or is it a bug?

I think it's a bug. It was reported on the PRT forums as a bug and a blue replied that they would look in to it, leading me to believe it was not an intended change: Source

the KRIS · 03/12/09, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nitz

They should introduce a Savage Roar - Bear, with a cooldown, for snap AoE / 360° threat. A Bear version of Thunderclap, with an heavier cooldown and appropriate threat numbers.

I'd actually be quite pleased if they simply rolled this into Demoralizing Roar, even if they slapped a 15-second cooldown on it. This'd give me some form of 360 threat and make life easier on my healers, since generally while tanking trash I can't afford the GCD to demo roar until well into the pull, or risk mobs veering out of my swipe spam to make some poor overzealous caster's life shorter.

Even recalling the 2.0 demo roar/shout threat nerf would be a nice perk.

Tyraz · 03/12/09, 1:32 PM

Just an observation, we were doing Patch on the PTR (dps test) and I saw many solar wrath crit for 9500-9800.

I am only sitting on 1806 sp unbuffed, so I am positive wrath can easily crit for 10k during solar eclipse.

I managed to keep a 5434 dps average without any mods (on the PTR while I am standing at around 4500 dps on live) and without any real purpose. By that I mean I using both solar and lunar to try and test numbers, but towards the end of the fight, I decided to proc solar as often as possible.

Please note I am in crit gear (24.34% unbuffed crit, 34.34% with 4 pieces and my own 5% crit from moonkin aura only).

Here the WWS (don't worry too much about my rotation, as I said I had no addons so it's kinda hard to keep track of dots/ecplise hidden cooldown):

Wow Web Stats

I am not sure what it means in regard of solar vs lunar, but smart people around here might find this information useful.

Charnas · 03/12/09, 1:35 PM

Originally Posted by Nitz

They should introduce a Savage Roar - Bear, with a cooldown, for snap AoE / 360° threat. A Bear version of Thunderclap, with an heavier cooldown and appropriate threat numbers.

Sorry but I think they really need to come up with something else, as this just seems to me too close to Challenging Roar. If they would just tune Demo Roar up, change the cooldown perhaps and add more threat I think we'd be set.

Centarion · 03/12/09, 5:05 PM

T8-Boni are there for Resto and Feral

Item - Druid T8 Feral 2P Bonus (Class: Druid) -- The periodic damage dealt by your Rake, Rip, and Lacerate abilites has a chance to cause you to enter a Clearcasting state.
Item - Druid T8 Feral 4P Bonus (Class: Druid) -- Increases the duration of Savage Roar and Survival Instinct by 8 sec.
Item - Druid T8 Restoration 2P Bonus (Class: Druid) -- Increases the healing done by your Swiftmend spell by 10%.
Item - Druid T8 Restoration 4P Bonus (Class: Druid) -- Your Rejuvenation spell also instantly heals your target for its periodic healing amount.

They look very very strong for me, especially the 4piece ones.

Charnas · 03/12/09, 5:10 PM

So the t8-4set resto, if I am reading it correctly just means that you'll get an extra tick of the hot "right away"?

grutak · 03/12/09, 5:22 PM

Thats what It sounds like Charnas. Kinda like the Priest glyph for PW:S that heals for part of the shield value.

Maraili · 03/12/09, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by Charnas

So the t8-4set resto, if I am reading it correctly just means that you'll get an extra tick of the hot "right away"?

That's the way that I'm reading the set bonus effect. You cast Rejuv, it instantly heals for the amount of 1 tick (instant heal, ala Swiftmend) and then continues to tick normally. Considering that Rejuv ticks for a decent amount, and that I already use it quite a bit, this will be a very nice bonus, I think.

If the above interpretation is correct, I will be interested to see how it interacts with [Glyph of Rejuvenation]. Assuming my target is at <50% health, will the 'free' set bonus tick take advantage of the additional healing that Rejuv does, or only the subsequent ticks?