Elitist Jerks
Register
Blogs
Forums


Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Druids

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08/16/09, 7:27 AM   #151
dedmonwakeen
Bald Bull
 
dedmonwakeen
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by ramenchef View Post
I tried importing to rawr only to get:
d:\simcraft>simcraft.exe rawr=cat.xml

simcraft: Unable to determine character name and class in Rawr Character Save XM
L.

simcraft: Unable to parse Rawr Character Save file 'cat.xml'
simcraft: Unknown option/value pair: 'rawr' : 'cat.xml'
simcraft: ERROR! Incorrect option format..
Sounds like I didn't do enough testing..... I just used a few Mage files I found..... PM me your config files and I'll work on it tonight.


Offline
Old 08/20/09, 5:41 PM   #152
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Has the moonkin 2t9 and 4t9 bonuses been modeled properly yet?

Offline
Old 08/20/09, 5:48 PM   #153
Starfox
King Hippo
 
Starfox's Avatar
 
Tauren Druid
 
Destromath (EU)
Originally Posted by Latas View Post
Has the moonkin 2t9 and 4t9 bonuses been modeled properly yet?
Yes,
Moonkin Raiding
has some runs with different setbonuses

Hello.
Light the fuse.
For all my homies.
Do not run, we are your friends.
SimulationCraft Druid Guy

Austria Offline
Old 08/20/09, 7:13 PM   #154
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by Starfox View Post
Yes,
Moonkin Raiding
has some runs with different setbonuses
Well I meant it more with the intention of seeing how the benefit I get from focus magic changes from 4t8 to 2t8+2t9.

I imported a copy of my character from rawr wearing the tier 9 head and chest and noticed that it didn't add the line for enabling the tier bonus. So I added the line "# tier9_2pc=1" myself and I still wasn't showing moonfire ticks critting at all. Is there something I'm missing?

Last edited by Latas : 08/20/09 at 7:37 PM.

Offline
Old 08/20/09, 8:35 PM   #155
Starfox
King Hippo
 
Starfox's Avatar
 
Tauren Druid
 
Destromath (EU)
Originally Posted by Latas View Post
Well I meant it more with the intention of seeing how the benefit I get from focus magic changes from 4t8 to 2t8+2t9.

I imported a copy of my character from rawr wearing the tier 9 head and chest and noticed that it didn't add the line for enabling the tier bonus. So I added the line "# tier9_2pc=1" myself and I still wasn't showing moonfire ticks critting at all. Is there something I'm missing?
Ah, now I get what you mean, yea there was a problem with the horde name of setpieces.
"#" starts a comment, the parser will skip it, those lines at the end are more a sanity check to see if something got not parsed correctly. Just do
tier9_2pc=1
Sorry, was my fault, it is fixed in the next release (3131 was the revision I fixed the wrong name of horde druid T9)

Hello.
Light the fuse.
For all my homies.
Do not run, we are your friends.
SimulationCraft Druid Guy

Austria Offline
Old 08/20/09, 8:37 PM   #156
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by Starfox View Post
Ah, now I get what you mean, yea there was a problem with the horde name of setpieces.
"#" starts a comment, the parser will skip it, those lines at the end are more a sanity check to see if something got not parsed correctly. Just do
tier9_2pc=1
Sorry, was my fault, it is fixed in the next release (3131 was the revision I fixed the wrong name of horde druid T9)
Ah, so the line "# tier8_2pc=1" in the config file normally if you have 2t8 is more for the reader and the sim itself actually reads the set bonuses off of the gear listed?

Also, I'm finding I'm having a problem running the rawr import with focus magic on it, but when I take focus magic off of that one it runs fine.

Last edited by Latas : 08/20/09 at 8:52 PM.

Offline
Old 08/20/09, 9:30 PM   #157
dedmonwakeen
Bald Bull
 
dedmonwakeen
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by Latas View Post
Ah, so the line "# tier8_2pc=1" in the config file normally if you have 2t8 is more for the reader and the sim itself actually reads the set bonuses off of the gear listed?

Also, I'm finding I'm having a problem running the rawr import with focus magic on it, but when I take focus magic off of that one it runs fine.
The stuff preceded by #'s are all comments. Essentially, you could replace all the slot=xxx lines with the stuff in comments and get the same result.

If you run into any problems with the sim, please feel free to open an Issue at the site.


Offline
Old 09/10/09, 10:30 AM   #158
Cdin
Von Kaiser
 
Cdin's Avatar
 
Troll Druid
 
Stonemaul
Is lag still included in the calculation?

I haven't looked at the Simcraft stuff in a while, but I remember that when I looked at it several months ago the Lag factor had a value of around 2.0 when I ran the SCALE_FACTORS.BAT. When I ran it to day it is coming up with a value of 0.00.

It is quite possible that I don't understand what the factors mean, but I thought the Factors indicated how your DPS is affected by the addition of more stats or in this case Lag. Since we all know that Lag does have an impact on DPS I am a little confused by this result. Can anyone explain it to me?

Thank you for the help.

www.GrayMatterWoW.blogspot.com - My Moonkin related Blog.

Offline
Old 09/10/09, 10:34 AM   #159
dedmonwakeen
Bald Bull
 
dedmonwakeen
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by Cdin View Post
Is lag still included in the calculation?

I haven't looked at the Simcraft stuff in a while, but I remember that when I looked at it several months ago the Lag factor had a value of around 2.0 when I ran the SCALE_FACTORS.BAT. When I ran it to day it is coming up with a value of 0.00.

It is quite possible that I don't understand what the factors mean, but I thought the Factors indicated how your DPS is affected by the addition of more stats or in this case Lag. Since we all know that Lag does have an impact on DPS I am a little confused by this result. Can anyone explain it to me?
Latency still is (and always will be) a key part of the simulator. What was changed was that we no longer calculate scale factors for latency by default, which results in a value of zero.


Offline
Old 09/12/09, 10:47 AM   #160
Althor
Great Tiger
 
Troll Priest
 
Barthilas
I've added Cat and Moonkin T9 BiS profiles to SimulationCraft.

*Disclaimer*: I do not play a Druid. I am not a Druid theorycrafter.

Notes:

1) For the feral profile I used the Alliance profile given here: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t63774-c...guide_dummies/. I didn't try experimenting too much with different items so it's of course possible that it's not ideal. For professions I chose BS/JC.

2) For the moonkin profile I couldn't find a pre-existing BiS list but I used the information here: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t59457-m...updated_3_2_a/
I *did* experiment a bit with different items and combinations for these profiles. I compared a various different gem choices, trinket choices, weapon choices etc.

3) I ended up creating 2 Moonkin profiles.
One uses 2pc T8 + 2pc T9. This one I gemmed yellow sockets with sp/haste because it was simming for more than sp/crit. I'm not sure if my choice of which slots to use T8 is optimal or not.

The other profile uses 4pc T9. Unlike the 2+2 profile I saw no gain gemming sp/haste in yellow sockets.

The 4pc T9 profile is slightly better than the 2pc T8 + 2pc T9 profile.

Here is Druid_T9.simcraft which is used to generate the profiles:
#!simcraft

Globals_T9.simcraft

optimal_raid=1

override.mangle=0

Druid_T9_58_00_13.simcraft
Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9.simcraft
Druid_T9_00_55_16.simcraft mangle=0
Druid_T9_00_55_16_M.simcraft

# simcraftdruidt9
# Uncomment below and comment out above to download profiles.

#wowhead=14187592 name=Druid_T9_58_00_13   save=Druid_T9_58_00_13.simcraft   eclipse_cycle=lunar
#back=jainas_radiance,id=47552,gems=23sp_5sp,enchant=lightweave
#finger1=band_of_deplorable_violence,id=47237,gems=12sp_10crit_5sp,enchant=23sp
#main_hand=miserys_end,id=47206,gems=0sp,enchant=63sp
#off_hand=chalice_of_searing_light,stats=65sta_57spi_65int_100sp_57crit,gems=0sp
#hands=gloves_of_the_lifeless_touch,id=47236,gems=23sp_23sp,enchant=28sp


#wowhead=14187598 name=Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9 save=Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9.simcraft   eclipse_cycle=lunar
#back=jainas_radiance,id=47552,gems=23sp_5sp,enchant=lightweave
#finger1=band_of_deplorable_violence,id=47237,gems=12sp_10haste_5sp,enchant=23sp
#main_hand=miserys_end,id=47206,gems=0sp,enchant=63sp
#off_hand=chalice_of_searing_light,stats=65sta_57spi_65int_100sp_57crit,gems=0sp

#wowhead=14186823 name=Druid_T9_00_55_16   save=Druid_T9_00_55_16.simcraft   mangle=0
#back=vereesas_dexterity,id=47545,gems=20arpen_8ap,enchant=22agi
#wowhead=14186823 name=Druid_T9_00_55_16_M save=Druid_T9_00_55_16_M.simcraft
#back=vereesas_dexterity,id=47545,gems=20arpen_8ap,enchant=22agi

#save_profiles=1
As for DPS results, running Druid_T9.simcraft (which thus does not include any extra spell power from a Demo Warlock unlike in Raid_T8.simcraft):

SimulationCraft for World of Warcraft build 3.2.0 ( iterations=10000, max_time=300, optimal_raid=1, smooth_rng=0 )

DPS Ranking:
  38351 100.0%  Raid
   9864  25.7%  Druid_T9_00_55_16
   9567  24.9%  Druid_T9_00_55_16_M
   9483  24.7%  Druid_T9_58_00_13
   9469  24.7%  Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9

Player: Druid_T9_58_00_13 night_elf druid balance 80
  DPS: 9483.1  Error=4.3  Range=894  DPR=30.1  RPS=315.5/314.1  (mana)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14187592
  Core Stats:  strength=365|97(10)  agility=366|98(10)  stamina=1754|1282(1160)  intellect=1746|1329(1160)  spirit=752|549(380)  health=24777|20057  mana=27021|23151
  Spell Stats:  power=4041|3314(3155)  hit=10.14%|10.14%(266)  crit=37.03%|29.53%(905)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.56%|17.02%(443)  mp5=150|121
  Attack Stats  power=1802|334(0)  hit=8.11%|8.11%(266)  crit=36.59%|28.37%(905)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=45.31%|17.56%(443)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4159|3623(3427)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=12.96%|7.36%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: starfire/moonfire/insect_swarm/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/thorns
  Actions:
    insect_swarm           Count= 20.2|15.0sec  DPE= 10824| 8%  DPET=  9830  DPR=  41.2  pDPS= 731  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=138  Tick=1583
    moonfire               Count= 13.9|22.1sec  DPE= 19951|10%  DPET= 18068  DPR=  29.5  pDPS= 928  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 372  Crit=  778|  802|62.0%  TickCount=96  Tick=1683  CritTick=3516|3648|61.9%
    reign_of_the_unliving  Count= 66.1| 9.0sec  DPE=  2669| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 589  Miss=3.9%  Hit=2188  Crit= 3380| 3578|47.5%
    starfall               Count=  3.8|96.8sec  DPE= 14464| 2%  DPET= 12764  DPR=  11.1  pDPS= 181  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=72  Tick=471  CritTick=986|1677|55.7%
    starfire               Count= 68.2| 4.2sec  DPE= 15273|37%  DPET=  7684  DPR=  29.9  pDPS=3476  Miss=0.0%  Hit=8116  Crit=16987|17746|80.7%
    wrath                  Count=111.6| 2.6sec  DPE=  8913|35%  DPET=  8312  DPR=  25.4  pDPS=3321  Miss=0.0%  Hit=5523  Crit=11542|12869|56.3%
   treants  (DPS=365.5)
    treant_melee           Count= 42.0| 5.1sec  DPE=  1834| 3%  DPET=  1259  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 257  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1883  Crit= 3766| 3817|8.3%  Glance=1412|24.1%  Dodge=4.8%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    bloodlust       : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    eclipse_lunar   : start=8.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.2|36.2   uptime=42%  benefit=72%  trigger=60%
    eclipse_solar   : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.5|36.5   uptime=39%  benefit=71%
    lightweave      : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.2|62.2   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    lunary_fury     : start=2.3   refresh=64.7   interval=106.7|4.4    uptime=97%  trigger=70%
    natures_grace   : start=31.4  refresh=135.0  interval=  9.5|1.8    uptime=87%  benefit=91%
    omen_of_clarity : start=12.5  refresh=0.0    interval= 21.9|21.9   uptime= 6%  benefit= 5%  trigger= 6%
  Procs:
    271.5 |   1.64sec : judgement_of_wisdom
     66.1 |   9.02sec : reign_of_the_unliving
  Gains:
     3933.6 : blessing_of_wisdom      (overflow=39.9%)
    26901.0 : initial_mana          
    17279.1 : judgement_of_wisdom     (overflow=9.0%)
    56976.6 : moonkin_form            (overflow=16.7%)
     5845.8 : mp5_regen               (overflow=35.0%)
     5600.1 : omen_of_clarity       
    10080.3 : replenishment           (overflow=37.7%)
        3.2 : spirit_intellect_regen  (overflow=89.9%)

Player: Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9 night_elf druid balance 80
  DPS: 9469.1  Error=4.1  Range=793  DPR=29.8  RPS=317.3/315.9  (mana)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14187598
  Core Stats:  strength=365|97(10)  agility=366|98(10)  stamina=1701|1234(1113)  intellect=1690|1283(1115)  spirit=702|503(335)  health=24247|19577  mana=26256|22461
  Spell Stats:  power=3943|3232(3079)  hit=10.14%|10.14%(266)  crit=35.59%|28.14%(854)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=27.24%|17.65%(463)  mp5=146|118
  Attack Stats  power=1802|334(0)  hit=8.11%|8.11%(266)  crit=35.48%|27.26%(854)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=46.29%|18.36%(463)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4257|3721(3525)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=12.96%|7.36%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: starfire/moonfire/insect_swarm/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/thorns
  Actions:
    insect_swarm           Count= 20.3|14.9sec  DPE= 10615| 8%  DPET=  9651  DPR=  40.3  pDPS= 718  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=139  Tick=1553
    moonfire               Count= 13.9|22.1sec  DPE= 19414|10%  DPET= 17597  DPR=  28.7  pDPS= 903  Miss=0.0%  Hit= 367  Crit=  767|  791|60.7%  TickCount=95  Tick=1654  CritTick=3455|3587|60.6%
    reign_of_the_unliving  Count= 68.4| 8.7sec  DPE=  2650| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 605  Miss=3.9%  Hit=2188  Crit= 3380| 3578|45.9%
    starfall               Count=  3.8|96.6sec  DPE= 14224| 2%  DPET= 12595  DPR=  10.9  pDPS= 179  Miss=0.0%  TickCount=72  Tick=468  CritTick=977|1665|54.3%
    starfire               Count= 68.4| 4.2sec  DPE= 15009|36%  DPET=  7630  DPR=  29.4  pDPS=3426  Miss=0.0%  Hit=7639  Crit=16018|16747|88.0%
    wrath                  Count=112.8| 2.6sec  DPE=  8984|36%  DPET=  8397  DPR=  25.6  pDPS=3383  Miss=0.0%  Hit=5622  Crit=11758|13442|54.8%
   treants  (DPS=362.7)
    treant_melee           Count= 42.0| 5.1sec  DPE=  1820| 3%  DPET=  1250  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 255  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1866  Crit= 3733| 3784|8.3%  Glance=1400|23.9%  Dodge=4.8%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/moonkin_form/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    bloodlust       : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    eclipse_lunar   : start=8.5   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.5|36.5   uptime=41%  benefit=72%  trigger=60%
    eclipse_solar   : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 36.8|36.8   uptime=39%  benefit=71%
    lightweave      : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.2|62.2   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    lunary_fury     : start=2.3   refresh=64.6   interval=106.3|4.4    uptime=97%  trigger=70%
    natures_grace   : start=29.5  refresh=140.0  interval= 10.1|1.8    uptime=89%  benefit=92%
    omen_of_clarity : start=12.6  refresh=0.0    interval= 21.7|21.7   uptime= 6%  benefit= 5%  trigger= 6%
  Procs:
    272.7 |   1.63sec : judgement_of_wisdom
     68.4 |   8.71sec : reign_of_the_unliving
  Gains:
     3878.5 : blessing_of_wisdom      (overflow=40.7%)
    26136.0 : initial_mana          
    17401.8 : judgement_of_wisdom     (overflow=8.7%)
    58040.5 : moonkin_form            (overflow=15.3%)
     5684.1 : mp5_regen               (overflow=35.1%)
     5627.1 : omen_of_clarity       
     9638.2 : replenishment           (overflow=38.7%)
        2.4 : spirit_intellect_regen  (overflow=90.1%)

Player: Druid_T9_00_55_16 night_elf druid feral 80
  DPS: 9864.5  Error=6.4  Range=1360  DPR=779.8  RPS=12.7/12.4  (energy)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14186823
  Core Stats:  strength=447|114(20)  agility=2037|1603(1396)  stamina=2080|1560(1346)  intellect=392|211(20)  spirit=369|193(20)  health=28037|22837  mana=9096|6381
  Spell Stats:  power=280|0(0)  hit=5.94%|5.94%(156)  crit=21.85%|15.76%(581)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=21.48%|12.32%(404)  mp5=0|0
  Attack Stats  power=12577|2895(2527)  hit=4.76%|4.76%(156)  crit=59.58%|39.38%(581)  expertise=20.49|20.49(86)  penetration=92.15%|88.91%(1095)  haste=43.40%|16.02%(404)
  Defense Stats:  armor=7906|7038(3832)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=43.82%|31.28%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: rip/shred/savage_roar/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/dash
  Actions:
    cat_melee       Count=469.0| 0.6sec  DPE=  2443|39%  DPET=  3824  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=3822  Miss=3.2%  Hit=1471  Crit= 3333| 3647|60.6%  Glance=1103|24.0%  Dodge=1.4%
    ferocious_bite  Count=  1.8|116.8sec  DPE= 22942| 1%  DPET= 19950  DPR= 530.7  pDPS= 137  Miss=3.3%  Hit=11578  Crit=26220|28371|81.4%  Dodge=1.5%
    rake            Count= 23.9|12.8sec  DPE= 11857|10%  DPET= 10311  DPR= 382.2  pDPS= 944  Miss=0.7%  Hit= 804  Crit= 1825| 2235|57.7%  Dodge=1.3%  TickCount=89  Tick=2820
    rip             Count=  9.4|31.5sec  DPE= 44221|14%  DPET= 38453  DPR=1776.2  pDPS=1385  Miss=0.3%  Dodge=1.4%  TickCount=97  Tick=2346  CritTick=5317|5394|65.4%
    shred           Count= 95.3| 3.1sec  DPE= 11250|36%  DPET=  9782  DPR= 391.2  pDPS=3577  Miss=3.2%  Hit=6674  Crit=15125|15745|57.8%  Dodge=1.4%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/cat_form/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    berserk         : start=2.0   refresh=0.0    interval=184.2|184.2  uptime=10%
    berserking_mh   : start=5.3   refresh=2.3    interval= 51.5|34.1   uptime=31%  benefit=31%  trigger= 1%
    bloodlust       : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%  benefit=17%
    combo_points    : start=42.2  refresh=120.6  interval=  7.2|1.8    uptime=78%
    comets_trail    : start=6.4   refresh=0.0    interval= 50.0|50.0   uptime=21%  trigger=10%
    mutilation      : start=1.8   refresh=61.7   interval=124.9|4.7    uptime=98%  trigger=70%
    omen_of_clarity : start=25.3  refresh=0.7    interval= 11.4|11.1   uptime= 5%  benefit= 6%  trigger= 6%
    savage_roar     : start=2.8   refresh=27.8   interval= 94.2|9.9    uptime=99%  benefit=99%
    tigers_fury     : start=10.0  refresh=0.0    interval= 30.7|30.7   uptime=16%  benefit=17%
  Up-Times:
      1.1% : energy_cap                    
     87.0% : rake                          
     63.6% : rip                           
  Procs:
     19.7 |  18.13sec : combo_points_wasted
     68.8 |   4.35sec : primal_fury
  Gains:
      127.7 : energy_refund   
     2976.3 : energy_regen    
     1039.7 : omen_of_clarity 
       10.4 : primal_precision
      600.6 : tigers_fury     

Player: Druid_T9_00_55_16_M night_elf druid feral 80
  DPS: 9566.9  Error=6.3  Range=1203  DPR=756.3  RPS=12.6/12.4  (energy)
  Origin: http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=14186823
  Core Stats:  strength=447|114(20)  agility=2037|1603(1396)  stamina=2080|1560(1346)  intellect=392|211(20)  spirit=369|193(20)  health=28037|22837  mana=9096|6381
  Spell Stats:  power=280|0(0)  hit=5.94%|5.94%(156)  crit=21.85%|15.76%(581)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=21.48%|12.32%(404)  mp5=0|0
  Attack Stats  power=12577|2895(2527)  hit=4.76%|4.76%(156)  crit=59.58%|39.38%(581)  expertise=20.49|20.49(86)  penetration=92.15%|88.91%(1095)  haste=43.40%|16.02%(404)
  Defense Stats:  armor=7906|7038(3832)  blockv=0|0(0)  defense=400|400(0)  miss=9.70%|9.70%  dodge=43.82%|31.28%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=5.90%|5.90%
  Glyphs: rip/shred/savage_roar/the_wild/unburdened_rebirth/dash
  Actions:
    cat_melee       Count=469.0| 0.6sec  DPE=  2444|40%  DPET=  3826  DPR=   0.0  pDPS=3824  Miss=3.2%  Hit=1471  Crit= 3333| 3647|60.6%  Glance=1103|24.0%  Dodge=1.4%
    ferocious_bite  Count=  1.9|115.8sec  DPE= 23028| 2%  DPET= 20024  DPR= 532.1  pDPS= 144  Miss=3.4%  Hit=11572  Crit=26227|28371|81.9%  Dodge=1.3%
    mangle_cat      Count= 27.0|11.3sec  DPE=  7529| 7%  DPET=  6547  DPR= 219.9  pDPS= 678  Miss=3.2%  Hit=4465  Crit=10129|10697|57.7%  Dodge=1.4%
    rake            Count= 22.6|13.4sec  DPE= 11988| 9%  DPET= 10424  DPR= 388.6  pDPS= 903  Miss=0.7%  Hit= 812  Crit= 1841| 2235|57.7%  Dodge=1.4%  TickCount=84  Tick=2853
    rip             Count=  9.5|31.2sec  DPE= 43560|14%  DPET= 37878  DPR=1750.5  pDPS=1376  Miss=0.3%  Dodge=1.4%  TickCount=96  Tick=2346  CritTick=5316|5394|65.4%
    shred           Count= 70.3| 4.2sec  DPE= 11263|28%  DPET=  9794  DPR= 427.1  pDPS=2643  Miss=3.2%  Hit=6680  Crit=15137|15745|57.8%  Dodge=1.4%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/cat_form/divine_spirit/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: mark_of_the_wild/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    berserk         : start=2.0   refresh=0.0    interval=184.0|184.0  uptime=10%
    berserking_mh   : start=5.2   refresh=2.3    interval= 51.7|34.1   uptime=31%  benefit=31%  trigger= 1%
    bloodlust       : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%  benefit=17%
    combo_points    : start=42.3  refresh=121.4  interval=  7.1|1.8    uptime=79%
    comets_trail    : start=6.4   refresh=0.0    interval= 49.9|49.9   uptime=21%  trigger=10%
    mutilation      : start=1.7   refresh=63.2   interval=129.8|4.6    uptime=99%  trigger=70%
    omen_of_clarity : start=25.3  refresh=0.7    interval= 11.4|11.1   uptime= 5%  benefit= 6%  trigger= 6%
    savage_roar     : start=2.8   refresh=27.8   interval= 94.5|9.9    uptime=99%  benefit=99%
    tigers_fury     : start=10.0  refresh=0.0    interval= 30.7|30.7   uptime=16%  benefit=17%
  Up-Times:
      1.1% : energy_cap                    
     82.6% : rake                          
     63.2% : rip                           
  Procs:
     20.0 |  17.93sec : combo_points_wasted
     69.3 |   4.32sec : primal_fury
  Gains:
      127.9 : energy_refund   
     2975.4 : energy_regen    
     1034.2 : omen_of_clarity 
       10.7 : primal_precision
      600.6 : tigers_fury     

Auras and De-Buffs:
  Constant: abominations_might/battle_shout/bleeding/blood_frenzy/crypt_fever/curse_of_elements/earth_and_moon
  Constant: elemental_oath/expose_armor/faerie_fire/ferocious_inspiration/flametongue_totem/heart_of_the_crusader
  Constant: hunters_mark/improved_faerie_fire/improved_moonkin/improved_scorch/improved_shadow_bolt/infected_wounds
  Constant: insect_swarm/judgement_of_wisdom/judgements_of_the_just/leader_of_the_pack/mana_spring_totem
  Constant: master_poisoner/misery/moonkin/poisoned/rampage/sanctified_retribution/savage_combat/strength_of_earth
  Constant: sunder_armor/swift_retribution/thunder_clap/totem_of_wrath/totem_of_wrath_debuff/trauma/trueshot
  Constant: unleashed_rage/windfury_totem/winters_chill/wrath_of_air
  Dynamic:
    mangle : start=10.6  refresh=15.2   interval= 29.2|11.9   uptime=96%  benefit=96%

Waiting:
    37.7% : Druid_T9_00_55_16
    37.4% : Druid_T9_00_55_16_M

Baseline Performance:
  TotalEvents   = 70013996
  MaxEventQueue = 55
  TargetHealth  = 11501914
  SimSeconds    = 2999584
  CpuSeconds    = 63.179
  SpeedUp       = 47478

RNG global Actual/Expected Roll=0.999611 Range=1.000000 Gauss=1.000000

Any feedback would be greatly welcome.

Offline
Old 09/14/09, 10:39 AM   #161
Allev
King Hippo
 
Allev's Avatar
 
Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
The feral cycles are due for some revising-- the ideal cycles I'm sure have changed since T7 and the change of shred glyph, and what's in there wasn't ideal for the time it was being used. Also, given the ridiculous amount of crit we can acquire, there's a lot more combo points out there than there used to be.

Offline
Old 09/14/09, 11:34 AM   #162
dedmonwakeen
Bald Bull
 
dedmonwakeen
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by Allev View Post
The feral cycles are due for some revising-- the ideal cycles I'm sure have changed since T7 and the change of shred glyph, and what's in there wasn't ideal for the time it was being used. Also, given the ridiculous amount of crit we can acquire, there's a lot more combo points out there than there used to be.
Any recommendations?

actions=flask,type=endless_rage
actions+=/food,type=blackened_dragonfin
actions+=/cat_form
actions+=/auto_attack
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/maim
actions+=/faerie_fire_feral,debuff_only=1
actions+=/shred,omen_of_clarity=1
actions+=/tigers_fury,energy<=40
actions+=/berserk,tigers_fury=1
actions+=/savage_roar,cp>=1,savage_roar<=4
actions+=/rip,cp>=5,time_to_die>=10
actions+=/ferocious_bite,cp>=5,rip>=5,savage_roar>=6
actions+=/rake
actions+=/shred


Offline
Old 09/14/09, 12:12 PM   #163
foxglove
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uldum
Well, I think there should be an action for Shred above the last 4 (above Rip) if Rip has less than 4 seconds left and if Shred has not already been used at least three times since the last time Rip was cast. I'm guessing one would have to implement some sort of a counter. (That's the Shred glyph.)

An aside, I think a majority of cats probably use Hearty Rhino instead of Blackened Dragonfin, depending whether they're agi-gemmed or ArP-gemmed.

Edit: There should also be an action to shred on any clearcasting proc, not just Omen of Clarity. If the 2pT8 set bonus is implemented as Omen of Clarity somehow it'd be fine, but the buff the set bonus grants is simply named Clearcasting (which actually is the name of the buff Omen of Clarity gives as well).

Last edited by foxglove : 09/14/09 at 12:27 PM.

Offline
Old 09/14/09, 1:47 PM   #164
dedmonwakeen
Bald Bull
 
dedmonwakeen
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by foxglove View Post
Well, I think there should be an action for Shred above the last 4 (above Rip) if Rip has less than 4 seconds left and if Shred has not already been used at least three times since the last time Rip was cast. I'm guessing one would have to implement some sort of a counter. (That's the Shred glyph.)

An aside, I think a majority of cats probably use Hearty Rhino instead of Blackened Dragonfin, depending whether they're agi-gemmed or ArP-gemmed.

Edit: There should also be an action to shred on any clearcasting proc, not just Omen of Clarity. If the 2pT8 set bonus is implemented as Omen of Clarity somehow it'd be fine, but the buff the set bonus grants is simply named Clearcasting (which actually is the name of the buff Omen of Clarity gives as well).
2pT8 / OoC support overlap: That conditional will work for both.

I added an extend_rip=1 conditional to Shred and experimented moving it around..... but I could not increase DPS. There seemed to be no real advantage of explicitly planning for this since it was happening naturally.

I had to create a rather hard movement scenario in order for the extra shred conditional to help:

raid_events=movement,cooldown=30,cooldown_stddev=3,duration=10


Offline
Old 09/14/09, 2:17 PM   #165
Allev
King Hippo
 
Allev's Avatar
 
Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
I can't work out the recommendations right now, as I'm posting from work; I'll have to sit down for a little bit.

The last time I looked at the shred profile, it benefitted from waiting for energy before shredding; so the last line would change into the following block:

/shred,rip>=2
/shred,cp<=5,rip<=2
/shred,energy>=80
Doing something like this increased DPS at the T7 level, and probably still does now; but I think it'll require the extend_rip=1 flag.

Note that this didn't work for the mangle profile as it is generally energy-deprived and doesn't have any opportunity to pool energy.

Offline
Closed Thread

Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Druids

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SimulationCraft Model Development dedmonwakeen Public Discussion 616 02/22/13 10:01 AM
SimulationCraft for Hunters dedmonwakeen Hunters 214 07/03/12 9:44 AM
SimulationCraft for Rogues dedmonwakeen Rogues 268 10/01/10 11:39 PM
From TheoryCraft to SimulationCraft dedmonwakeen Class Mechanics 18 06/09/07 5:03 PM