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Old 04/19/09, 4:59 AM   #226
nightcrowler
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Runetotem (EU)
delete please

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Old 04/19/09, 5:03 AM   #227
Fishmitohren
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Tauren Druid
 
Onyxia (EU)
Berserk does stack with Predatory Strikes.
I have unbuffed 7225 AP.
With Berserk proc, I have 7665 AP.
It seems like Berserk only gets an 10% increase of PS.
Anyways, it looks weird to me.

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Old 04/19/09, 5:30 AM   #228
Esari
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Night Elf Druid
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Originally Posted by nightcrowler View Post
I had some time to rerun simulation with the new arpen formula. The one I used before and the new one gives the same results for feral druids for tested situation (lvl 83 boss with both fff and 5 sunders), so Arpen is still our best stat.
Could you post the Stats values with the new formula?

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Old 04/19/09, 5:36 AM   #229
Malazaar
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Tauren Druid
 
Gul'dan (EU)
Originally Posted by Fishmitohren View Post
Berserk does stack with Predatory Strikes.
I have unbuffed 7225 AP.
With Berserk proc, I have 7665 AP.
It seems like Berserk only gets an 10% increase of PS.
Anyways, it looks weird to me.
This isn't PS, just the 10 % you get from HotW.

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Old 04/19/09, 6:50 AM   #230
nightcrowler
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Runetotem (EU)
@Sadirin:
You can remove the hud from /fbn -> show options -> uncheck "show hud"
You can renove berserk suggestion from /fbn -> cycle options -> uncheck "suggest berserk"

Moongose doesn't increse haste (like wf) but works directly on weapon speed, you should see if weapon speed is decreased while mongoose procs.

As for a dot timers with bars and profile management they are in work. Remember that it's still a beta. I'll try to implement every interesting suggestion.

@Esari:
when I said that the new formula is the same of the one I used for simulations, I mean tha they produce the same error with about 0.01% discrepancy in the test environment (basically the only change is a 0.8104 factor instead of 0.81), so dps, stats value, stats priority, everything stay the same.
I've updated both simulator and addon with the right arpen formula, I'll post it when there are also other update, because the effect is the same, so they both works fine.

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Old 04/19/09, 9:28 AM   #231
Juuso
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Night Elf Druid
 
Krag'jin (EU)
delete pls

P.S. Thanks to fishmitohren.

Last edited by Juuso : 04/19/09 at 10:11 AM.

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Old 04/19/09, 9:41 AM   #232
Fishmitohren
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Tauren Druid
 
Onyxia (EU)
Did you lock the frames?
It always show mangle if the frame is unlocked, so we can move it better.

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Old 04/19/09, 10:19 AM   #233
zimira
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the thing is if you have unchecked "show hud" it still shows on load (think it goes for other elements you have chosen to hide as well, atleast the cd bar), so you have to "unlock" and then lock fbn and the elements you dont want to show is gone.

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Old 04/19/09, 11:50 AM   #234
DIE_KUH
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Tauren Druid
 
Malygos (EU)
Originally Posted by zimira View Post
the thing is if you have unchecked "show hud" it still shows on load (think it goes for other elements you have chosen to hide as well, atleast the cd bar), so you have to "unlock" and then lock fbn and the elements you dont want to show is gone.
I have the same problem. I chose to hide the cooldown monitor and HUD, and each time WoW starts or reloads all addons, both frames are shown. /fbn -> unlock -> lock and they're gone again.

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Old 04/19/09, 12:46 PM   #235
Husyor
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Originally Posted by Jone View Post
from World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> 116% Armor Pen only giving 66%!?!?!?!

So, there's a point at which you have too much armor pen. Nightcrowler, I hope you have a great weekend and enjoy 3.1. On Monday, I'd be delighted to I'm eager to hear what this does to your model.
So is there a cap and if so, what is it?

Edit: I'd like to thank everyone for their great work in the mods and math

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Old 04/19/09, 2:37 PM   #236
Boevis
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Originally Posted by nightcrowler View Post
Moongose doesn't increse haste (like wf) but works directly on weapon speed, you should see if weapon speed is decreased while mongoose procs.
Specifically, Mongoose adds Lightning Speed with around a 1/3 uptime. The 2% Haste from Lightning Speed stacks multiplicatively with haste rating, my 2.4 speed staff with 9.04% haste attacks at 2.2 speed until a mongoose proc which makes it 2.159 speed (it would be 2.161 speed if Mongoose was additive like other haste) this makes it slightly more valuable than the equivalent amount of haste rating.

Husyor: ArP cap is likely 75% unless ArP applies after Sunder/FF in which case it's 100%.

Last edited by Boevis : 04/19/09 at 3:14 PM.

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Old 04/19/09, 10:24 PM   #237
mesh7
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Alexstrasza (EU)
I was wondering how much higher have people seen there dps jump if they completely re-gemmed from all agi/str gems to arpen, (assuming using ~25man gear). If its only 20-30 dps, I wonder if its worth it for people who use some of their dps/agi gemmed gear for tanking.

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Old 04/20/09, 1:00 AM   #238
Hezkezl
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Vashj
Originally Posted by mesh7 View Post
I was wondering how much higher have people seen there dps jump if they completely re-gemmed from all agi/str gems to arpen, (assuming using ~25man gear). If its only 20-30 dps, I wonder if its worth it for people who use some of their dps/agi gemmed gear for tanking.

I went from #2 to #3 in damage and dps on XT-002, to #1 with 6800 dps tonight. The only thing I changed, aside from picking up the Surge Needle Ring from Maly, was completely regem to ArP from agi. My previous highs were ~6300 to ~6400. I'm not sure if a different raid composition was also the contributing factor, but I do know my dps went UP after I regemmed. Wether that's from the gems itself or from another factor is hard to say.

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Old 04/20/09, 1:31 AM   #239
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Jubei'Thos
I was hitting well over 7k dps on XT-200 and on our kill I managed a little over 7.5k dps. I am gemmed for agi and used the shred idol as I thought it would be better for a static boss. I also had to help out on killing scrap bots at 1 stage so I would have been higher. I did not get hysteria or anything like that, just pally buffs, shaman buffs, food and a flask.

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Old 04/20/09, 1:47 AM   #240
Hinalover
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Originally Posted by pirao View Post
I was hitting well over 7k dps on XT-200 and on our kill I managed a little over 7.5k dps. I am gemmed for agi and used the shred idol as I thought it would be better for a static boss. I also had to help out on killing scrap bots at 1 stage so I would have been higher. I did not get hysteria or anything like that, just pally buffs, shaman buffs, food and a flask.
your also doing double damage while attacking the heart, so that 7k+ dps is a little skewed.

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