If you have to mangle because you don't have a manglebot or trauma, Corruptor is better dps than the shred idol. Your question was answered numerous times. Are you assuming it is better to swap idols during combat?



EDIT- Thanks for the clarification Jone. Like Jone said, the simulator would have to handle such a question.

That's correct; I wasn't interested in what the performance of Idol of the Corruptor was (which I knew) - I was interested in whether anyone had done any analysis on Idol of Mutilation (especially when you don't need to mangle personally) and what those values were. I apologize for any lack of clarity.

I know that if you assume 100% uptime Rawr values it as the best idol. What I don't know is whether 100% uptime is reasonable (there is some evidence that it has a lower proc rate on shreds), and whether with higher shred amounts (such as with 2pT9 or 4pT8) you will be better off improving shreds, and what overall value that is.

The Proc for Idol of Mutilation is listed as a 70% chance to proc with a 16 second duration

Doing some very rough math, that's 1.33 Mangles and 2.18 Shreds (based on 3 Shreds/22 seconds and thus not counting OOC, TF, Berserk giving extras) on average. giving ~3.5 attacks per 16s or .22 attacks per second. This gives a 98.56% uptime. Since we aren't actually attacking at exact intervals, it's going to be a little bit lower, but extra shreds will keep it well within 95%-100% uptime.

Was having an issue with version 3.240 tonight whilst doing Uld10.

I also use EventHorizon and it seemed FBN was showing the rake icon when the dot was still on the target.

I have not changed any of the settings since installing the latest version.

Edit: Did Uld25 and the problem did not reoccur, may have been an issue with having only just updated.

For those of us still under the armor pen cap(stupid weapons never dropping). how would the new trinket out of the regular 5 man be as a replacement to using grim toll? i can't link it right, it's called banner of victory, 84 passive armor pen and procs 1008 ap for 10 seconds.

Banner of Victory, according to Rawr, is better than Mirror of Truth by about 40 DPS but worse than Darkmoon:Greatnesss. It also loses to Comet's Trail. It's a pretty solid trinket, but it doesn't come anywhere close to [Mjolnir Runestone]. Depending on how close you are to the hit cap, it could be close to [Grim Toll]. If you can use all the hit from Grim, it won't be, but it's fairly comparable otherwise.

Anyone get this error with 3.2? I'm using the latest build off curse.

Message: Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:3724: Usage: UnitDebuff("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"])
Time: 08/04/09 19:32:04
Count: 176
Stack: [string "Interface\FrameXML\BasicControls.xml:<Scrip..."]:18: in function <[string "Interface\FrameXML\BasicControls.xml:<Scrip..."]:4>
(tail call): ?
[C]: ?
[C]: in function `UnitDebuff'
Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:3724: in function `BossauraMonitor'
Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:3156: in function `OnUpdate'
Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:2156: in function <Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:2155>

Locals:

Yes. As are the two other ferals in my guild.

I'm also having the same messege for various other addons along with FBN.

My move suggestion and predictor are not working in 3.2


the error im getting is

Looks to me it goes wrong on the check to see if you're standing on Ignis's Scorch. Maybe this spell got changed in 3.2 causing this line to malfunction now...

I tried the two most recent versions of FBN and got no suggestion frame from either version. The placeholder frame shows up when I unlock the frames, but it disappears when the frames are locked.

All ferals might want to pick one up anyway. With epic gems, blacksmithing(if you have it), jewelcrafting(if you have it) and the new gear, there's a lot of ArP. Even with Rawr's incomplete 245 item database(and no 258 items), stacking passive ArP and no runestone/grim toll is better dps. Once you get into the 950 ArP range, Banner of Victory becomes a very good trinket. Caveat: Rawr doesn't have any of the new trinkets besides this one.

Even if a new ArP proc trinket shows up, it will probably be too restrictive such that you'll be pushing the soft cap from new gear.

All Cats and Bears I know that use this(and we all love it) are not getting any info since 3.2. No move suggest or stats. This is easily the greatest feral addon in history. Don't want to see it go away.

For all other people having trouble with FbN since 3.2 commenting out line 3156 has so far managed to get move suggestion and prediction working for me, although I've only tried it on a dummy not sure if it'll work as smoothly in a raid. Thanks for the great addon.

I have reported this issue since PTR tests. I think Nightcrowler will fix it soon.

I attempted to do this and either I messed it up or there are other interactions with other mods that are causing the Suggestion HUD to not display properly.

To be clear though I used the Notepad2 linked above and simply added in two hyphens "--" like so (no quotes) at the very beginning of line 3156. Still no go on the add-on.

The error I receive is as follows:

FeralbyNight-3.239\FeralbyNight.lua:3700: Usage: UnitDebuff("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"])
FeralbyNight-3.239\FeralbyNight.lua:3700: in function `BossauraMonitor'
FeralbyNight-3.239\FeralbyNight.lua:3132: in function `OnUpdate'
FeralbyNight-3.239\FeralbyNight.lua:2138: in function <Interface\AddOns\FeralbyNight\FeralbyNight.lua:2137>

EDIT: I changed my comment line to 3132 instead of 3156 and it worked. I suppose it depends on version. I'll report any further issues as I find them.

Worked fine for me to. Thanks!
Link to download a working .lua file

The file download limit has been reached on that site. Can you post what you put in for like 3156 so we can possibly past it in ourselves?

Here's my .lua with line 3156 commented out:

FeralbyNight.lua

Works now. Thank you for posting those. Absolutely love this addon. I was having withdraws :P

Big thanks)