I know Nightcrowler may not post for a while, but is anyone able to redo the numbers on this accounting for the recent primal gore, rend and tear and savage roar changes?

How good will Executioner enchant be after stacking allthose arp items and gems?
(You have an additional 120 armor penetration rating for 15 sec.)

Likely still not as good as Lightning Speed - Spell - World of Warcraft from Mongoose. Even with ArP being higher than Agi, it's not high enough to counter the ~65.5 Haste Rating on top of the 120 agi.

Can you verify the proc has been changed to 120 rating? I haven't found anyone able to confirm it being updated yet.

" Remember to put "additional armor value" inside "armor value" if you want to see the real ranking for neck, rings, trinkets, back, weapon. "

I checked thru the bear gear selections you had and noticed that every neck, ring, trinket, back and weapon stood way out on top if it had additional armor on it. I would not of thought Defenders Code (213 purple) and Offering of sacrifice (200 blue) to be leaps and bounds better than say the Darkmoon card greatness (agility). The same goes for cloaks the lvl 187 blue Flowing Cloak of Command beats the lvl 213 purple badge bought cloak (platnium mesh).

Is there something that has changed in 3.1 that make even the blue quality item lvl 200 things with "additional armor" close to best in slot now?

Also, I have one suggestion for the gear selection. Change the item level from 200 to 187 as there are several blues that just seem to be made better for tanking druids according to the way stats are weighed

If you're talking about Nights Choice Rankings, as you noticed they aren't treating Armor as Additional Armor appropriately, [Figurine - Monarch Crab] has a score over 10k before counting the use effect, [Offering of Sacrifice] just breaks 5k with the use. Wowhead clearly isn't applying additional armor or use effects properly. However more often than not, the Extra Armor items are better than those without (Cloak, Rings, Neck) but this is by design, not a function of the strength of extra armor (ex. it would be a simple thing to lower the defense for more dodge/sta and change the socket to red or blue on [Gale-Proof Cloak] and it would actually be better than [Cloak of the Shadowed Sun]

First of all, sorry for my ban, I'll try to pay more attention to forum rules in the future.
Now start with replies (in random order):

- ArPen is a very good stats for 2 reason: it increase quicker than linear (the more you have the better) and has recived a 25% boost with 3.1
- I have an high value of ArPen in my sim because I use Grim Toll (averaged out).

- If you look at Wowhead, trinkets are ranked only for raw stats (on use can't be ranked), you can look at the good post: Feral Trinkets

- As for extra armor, wowhead doesn't handle extra armor properly, a way to go around it is to put "extra armor" value inside "armor" cell and then reload the filter: In this way, also remember that in my sim I consider inspiration basically always up (right at least for me, I have 100% inspiration uptime when I tank).

- For Allev: yes, there is something strange in the "mangle" cycle.


I've updated the code for the latest patch, I'll put the report and the new code online very soon, I'm also reviewing the algoritm due to addon result (it's easier to notice that a code is working in strange ways when "you" are the simulator). I'm also working full time at the addon. The addon will have different component:
- suggestion panel (a modified version of facemauler basically)
- a "real stats" panel (your real crit vs. bosses, your real armor pen value considering sunders, etc.. and so on, the panel change on the fly and it's used to compute the best ability for the suggestion panel)
- an hud: mana, energy, rage, threat, life, boss casting bar (to do). Al with color changing due to status.
- a cooldown monitor: feral abilities with timers & cooldowns

At the moment I'm working on cd monitor and bear suggestion panel then I'll add other goodies but I can do them after the first release.

I assume you are talking about cat simulations (I'm at 269 hitrating, 5 points over the cap, will be probably better to change icewalker with agility on boots, I'll make the change with the newer sims).

Trinket:
Grim Toll
Greatness (agility)

Ring:
Ring of Invincibility
Ruthlessness

Head: T7.25
Shoulders: T7.25
Neck: Favor of the Dragon Queen
Back: Drape of Deadly Foe
Chest: Chestguard of the Recluse
Hands: Frosted Androit Handguards
Feet: Dawnwalkers
Bracers: Sinner's Binding
Belt: Stalk-skin Belt
Legs: Leggings of the Honored

Weapon: Journey's End + Berserking

Yes, Cat simulations, sorry. Also, I assume you have some typos as you would be 269 with icewalker and be 6 over the hit cap. Also, am I correct in assuming rawr's calculations aren't up to par?

Yes sorry, was a typo. Rawr calculation are completly right for equip and total stats (I usually use rawr to verify them) as for dps/stats value the main difference is that rawr and similar programs uses a statistical approach (and usually simplify the cycle to do it like don't using FB) while mine program and programs like SimCraft use direct simulation of a fight, if made properly they should be more accurate.

If you check his Armory, that is what he is wearing now (or very close to). From my experience fiddling around with Rawr, I believe BiS (current gear and patch) would indeed be Greatring of Collision and Surge Needle Ring, along with Wristwraps of the Cutthroat for wrist and Footwraps of Vile Deceit for feet.