Actually I remember seeing those listings around the beginning of 3.1 and it was populated fairly well by cats, but as more and more time passed rogues and dks and such started taking them over.

Got any links to that discussion and/or meters? Tun's gear(that you can see) isn't BiS, and some of it is questionably gemmed. Lastly, I've heard they throw all sorts of cooldowns at him.

The 25-man Algalon video had Tun beating everyone by about 500 DPS. In a later interview they talk about how you want you ferals DPSing instead of tanking.

In the Mimiron 25 Tun was also top damage, if not top DPS, before horribly dying to fire.

That he's not BiS isn't surprising; that he's so completely dominating the other rogues, hunters and locks on a fairly static fight like Algalon is.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did receive a lot of cooldowns. Ferals are one of two classes that reap maximum benefits from a Hysteria and warriors aren't exactly putting up impressive numbers. TotT chain as well as salvs would do wonders. Mostly a side effect of being purely physical and having ArP being our primary stat. Curse of Elements would have to stack 5 times over for casters to benefit to the point that ferals and warriors do from ArP, and that's probably why rogues, enh shammies, and rets don't stack ArP and also see extraordinary numbers on Hodir (singed debuff).

Edit-In that interview they said they brought a Blood DK and one rogue. Pretty much sounds like he received Hysteria and TotT's in the fight. Explains the 7.4k dps for sure. Can you link a WWS report or something similar to their attempts. I'd like to see how many times he gained said buffs. Also, the way they specifically state that feral single target DPS is "sooooo good" seems to imply that they may just relieve him of any encounter/add duties and stick him squarely on the boss.

That guide has some pretty egregious errors. Suggesting hit and expertise cap and 50% crit without showing any sort of math or explanation is "huh?". Linking Rawr pictures(aside that we've already determined a few pages earlier that the Rawr model is unrealistic) that have the "DON'T USE THIS TO COMPARE GEAR" warning right in the damn picture is

It suffices to say, if some of his statements were made in this forum they would probably receive an infraction. I'm sure there are many of us here that, with the gear and cooldowns that this fellow has, would put up similar or higher numbers.

Considering that if I remember right one of the crit breakpoints for kitties is about 60% him saying 50% is aiming a bit low. I really hope blizzard looks around for other opinions and doesn't take his word as gospel. Frankly if he is using rawr to calculate his stuff which his stat values would imply then even when the runestone is procced the rip idol still slightly edges out the shred idol with the gear he listed.

Also that reminds me, given the fact that the proc rate of the Idol of the Corruptor is 100% with kitty mangle wouldnt the constant 153 agi make that idol BiS for dps?

60% is around the change of slope in the crit vs. combo points generation curve. As already stated at around 60% crit, the value of crit start decreasing more than before but "more" is not that much, cps generation is only a small component of crit-derived dps.

Maybe people including myself like the complexity of our cycle. This discussion has been raging in the BB for the last few days but I wouldn't be interested in playing the class really if they reduced it to the simplicity of a Ret pally, Enh shaman or mage.

I like the fact I'm always thinking ahead and planning for the next minute is really fun.

But I really don't think it is too high anyway. Rogues beat us on the majority of fights that don't have a gimmick and they are our nearest comparison for pure vs hybrid. Wasn't this pretty much how they wanted it, Ferals being slightly behind the pure class?

What maybe should be nerfed is the interaction between Berserk and Hysteria which is in my opinion the real reason we're seeing those Ferals on the meters there.


Edit:
I just saw that blog! Wow, there is a LOT of misinformation in there. The tanking guide is slightly better but the whole thing reads like its been written by a 12 year old. Kind of disappointed. Also his gear and gemming setup is really quite questionable.

Careful if you use an avoidance set, you might get labelled a "Feral badboy and a radical thinker".

Vaccine, I totally agree in every single word you just posted.

I desperately hope they will just change the interaction with Berserk and Hysteria. For gods sake, even the removal of Savage Roar stacking with Hysteria would be acceptable.

He said XT's hard mode, which only gives you a single heart phase and 9 - 9.5 minutes of Patchwerk style dps (i.e. no damage modifiers, single target with no movement), minus any light/gravity bombs you receive. It's a pretty decent measure of sustained single target dps, particularly if you factor out damage done to the heart. Probably the best such measure in all of Ulduar really, with Ignis being too short and thus prone to RNG streaks.