Anecdotally, I'm seeming more parries too on ulduar bosses. I imagine blizzard is just give these bosses a higher parry rate to correspond with the increasing levels of expertise out there.

Expertise cap for negating parry is 16%, 6.5% is to negate Dodge which is why most dps threads state the expertise cap is at 6.5%. So unless you have 16% expertise you will still be getting parried, the bosses in Ulduar have not had their parry chance increased.

Farias, this was shown recently to be untrue at least for the training dummy; it was 14%. This was in the combat ratings thread as well as other threads.

Without actual data points and values, it's pretty useless to cite one or two fights. In those cases it's just more deep breaths.

If you read my post I did state that I do have infinite rage, since the bosses hit over 10-20k, unless I get a string of dodges/misses or on the start of a pull.

I did, but depending on a situation where you aren't hit AND you happen to get a proc off of a bleed that happens every 3 seconds is not a justifiable reason to have the set bonus. And it still only gives you a free mangle, lacerate or swipe; maul will still not be paid for via clearcasting, which means at best it's 40% of your threat.

As I said, even in low rage situations it's not reliable.

Artemas/Xes I was trying to look up your character via armory and could not find you... I'm trying to find out where I can get the bis feral gear and what it would be pre ulduar.

I am also doing Thorim hard mode and his Unbalancing Strike, which apparently does not reset his swing timer at the moment, hits like a truck as he gains more debuffs. I agree that on most of the fights, gemming pure agility doesn't really cut it, meaning not enough health pool, so I dedicated my first set of T8.5 to pure stamina set and have my T7.5 for pure avoidance as well as a threat set in the bag. I don't think threat is an issue on Thorim, since the boss is being taunted most of the time and even if it was, I don't see myself switching threat gear in and lose survivability at this stage.

From what i've seen so far, i'd say you should be aiming for 50k HP buffed. If you can get more while not sacrificing too much of the other stats - go for it.

Your link leads to Gatekeeper's Key, not Gatekeeper.

If the usual formatting doesn't work, try specifying the item number inside the first brackets, e.g. [item=40370 ]Gatekeeper [/ item]

i may be a nub, but [Idol of Perspicacious Attacks] still seems like a VERY useful idol. Even with the new mangle one.

For me, they're idols for very different situations. The agility proc ones is for bosstanking when you take loads of damage and need the extra dodge, while the maul/swipe one is for naxx aoe trash tanking. I havent used the maul/swipe one so far in ulduar.

Looking pretty good. Just hope the [Heart of Iron] drops for you to replace that blue trinket of yours. I have a separate avoidance set, but looking at your somewhat agility based gear setup you do have relatively lower dodge than I'd expected (1% more than me in my full stamina set).

I'd also throw in [Mark of the Unyielding] as a nice way to boost dodge.

Don't be like that guy and go out of your way to activate all socket bonuses with strange gems. Either you focus on avoidance - gemming 16 agi in all slots barring 12stam/8agi in blue slots where you like the bonus, or focus on health - gemming 24 stam in all slots barring 12stam/8agi in red slots where you like the bonus. And if you really want to activate yellow sockets, use something like defense/stam, not crit/stam.

I find myself either using prismatic gems or the glinting monarch topaz (8hit/8agi) in yellow sockets... gemming defense seems.. well.. yeah..

I was directing that comment to non JCs who don't have access to nice prismatics. Additionally, I was not so much encouraging gemming defense as I was stating if you really feel like you need to gem a yellow slot, choose a better option than crit/stam. I would take 12 stam / 8 defense over 8 agi / 8 hit any day.

I have a serious question that I cannot find a definate answer for.

What is the cap for dodge percentage ? When does diminshing returns kick in?

I ask this because right now my stats raid buffed are 49% dodge, 42k health. Of course I have mongoose on my Twisted Visage, Darkmoon Greatness and Heart of Iron. So as you can see I'm constantly sitting at 52-54% dodge, and if I use Heart of Iron, it goes up to 58% dodge. To me this seems excessively high.

I am using all agility/agility+stam gems and according to Rawr, thats what I should be doing but I cant help but think that all that dodge really isn't doing me much good passed a certain point.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi
i am currently a feral druid tank tanked up to General in 10 ulduar

and i was looking at my Glyphs
currently i am using
- Glyph of Maul
- Glyph of Growling
- Glyph of Frezied Regeneration

is there any use in replacing these for
- Glyph of Survival Instincts
- or glyph of Berserk and Glyph of mangle

Diminishing returns on avoidance are applied continuously. See http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t29453-c...gs_level_80_a/.

Most of these numbers can be found at http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t29453-c...gs_level_80_a/. In realistic terms there is no hard cap. The DR is a continual curve. You can see a graph here showing the TTL gain per stat is somewhat flat for obtainable levels.

Tank gearing really has not changed at all from TBC. If you want more survivability, stack stamina. When you think you have enough, stack avoidance. When healing is easy, stack TPS/DPS.

Replace frenzied regen with SI, barkskin and mangle are both not that useful

Just to provide complete information: non-JCs do have access to a prismatic gem, the [Enchanted Tear], which is unique-equipped and +6 to all stats, which in itself is not bad, since it boost everything (TPS, avoidance, survival). If used to obtain a socket bonus, it can become the best gem to use.

Ulduar tanking: I only tank in 10-man basically. When running 25 man there are other tanks and I stick to pure DPS (I'm in a casual guild, we're advancing very slowly in Ulduar). For the moment I'm going with stamina, since it has shown to be a more reliable stat. I agree that Ulduar items are lacking for feral tanks, it really looks like with 3.1 blizzard wanted all us ferals to go dps. Big cat dps boost, ulduar leather items loaded with armor penetration (which is very much useless for a tank), set bonuses which are good for cat and very average for tanking....

BTW I'm working on a tanking simulator, if there's interest I can release it (it's C++, for the moment without any kind of interface). I wrote it because I wanted to learn more about game mechanics and also because the TTL calculation from Toskks doesn't tell the full story.