First of all - I'm new to the EJ scene and want to post some logs from my 25man kills and hope you guys can show me how to improve my DPS or tell me if i do something wrong, but i don't think so.
Ok here we go:

Deathbringer Saurfang - 25man

Festergut - 25man

No Tricks or Hysteria but with an Armswarrior as Manglebot.

Lord Marrowgar - 25man

Same settings here, but not my best performence. I'm usually using the 4/5 in Feral Aggression and 3/3 in Feral Instinct for those fights. Our strat is that we are build up one camp in meleerange. If he cast Bonespikes I try to swipe and mostly hit 4 Targets.

If you want to see some other Bosses of my guild:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

hi there. It's my first time here, just wanted to know what you think about it:

festergut 25 on wednesday. no hysteria, had to mangle myself, no tricks, no arms, no enhancer:

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

and saurfang:

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

wish i had anyone else to mangle but life's unfair -.-

Thought I would post here to show you guys what feral can do!
WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay

I have a top parse on every fight you can find on there. I never get hysteria or tricks so it is a real representation of what feral is capable of. For the most part, the only people who beat me get hysteria/TotT.

And here is a full ICC25 from last night on WoL.
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Your Rip/rake uptimes are so high! On fights with no add switching mine are usually in low-middle 80%s and yours are in high 80%s and sometimes even 90%s. Got any tips? Do you overwrite SR a lot to desynchronize it with Rip? Having a mangle bot obviously helps.

I am always watching to see if I will need to desynchronize, usually as soon as I put a rip up or as soon as I put up a new SR. Also energy pooling and only shredding when u you need to are key. Getting caught with no energy when you need it the most will drop your dot uptimes significantly. Practice makes perfect!

Festergut 10

Saurfang 10

On mangle duty but had a dk tossing hysteria on me. Should definately yank those uptimes higher on rip and rake.

No mangle bot is actually only a ~200 dps loss according to simulationcraft.

Also, here is ToGC25 from last night. It has a couple of good parses and the top Twins parse. No manglebot but I did get hysteria to make up for it except for on anub.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

I noticed the uptimes are bugged on Twins though, probably due to switching between them. There is no way I could have got the top parse with only a 80% uptime on mangle!

Keep in mind that that's a pretty close to ideal mangle bot, with only 2% or so downtime and never more than a second of overwritten mangle, and a decent consciousness of the expiration of Rip and shredding beforehand. In practice it's probably close to 300.

Got a Saurfang 25m parse here from tonight, full buffs with 4T10 bonus, no mangle bot / tricks / etc.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

I'm still getting drastically less damage than I should and I am completely stumped as to what the cause is. My damage just seems to be 5-10% lower on every ability with my gear and the high uptimes (toskk says average white attack 2440, I get 2200, similar results with mangle and shred on DPE analysis). I seem to have every buff so I'm just puzzled.

But just so we get some 4T10 parses out there.


Edit: 10k parse on Festergut just now, same raid

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Two more #1 parses tonight, I got hysteria but no mangle bot.

Putricide 25 (~100 DPS above #1)
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Festergut 25 (~700 DPS above #1)
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Chetal, any chance you could fraps one of those fights where your rip and rake uptime are in the 90%s?
Mine seem much lower: Festergut 25m

edit: I also SR at 4-5cps. Do you SR with lower CPs much? If you are at 5cps, 10sec SR, and 15sec Rip, do you refresh SR or FB and try to get a low-cp SR + 5cp Rip?

Comparing your parse and the one Chetal posted, there's a few reasons why he's got t he edge, besides slightly higher uptimes (very impressive btw). 9 more clearcasts, hysteria, over 200 energy from revitalize. You can't really compete with that.

It's understandable that he will do more dps with more buffs. My main concern was our difference in bleed uptimes.

Only thing that I could suggest is make sure you are pooling your energy correctly and that you are only wasting combo points when it would be an energy loss if you didn't.

Festergut.
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
The rogue doing the parse dc'd during the last minute or so of the fight. I actually topped out at second with 10.3k total dps.
WoWScrnShot_020210_205258.jpg picture by afatgoat - Photobucket I got trixed, but also only rock 4/5 FB. Messed up my rotation a few times, could of definitely done better. We have a feral tank mangling or an arms warrior but half the time no one is sundering/expose armor. I don't get trixed usually.

No Hysteria, no Tricks, no mangle-bot.

Saurfang
WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay

Festergut
WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay

Mangle-bot, no ToT or Hysteria.

Festergut:

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

In reference to some of the really high numbers on here one thing to look at is the overall length of your fight. If the overall DPS in a guild is very high and the fight is considerably shorter you spend a larger percentage of the time with buffs like Berserk and Heroism/Bloodlust active.

This is it in a nutshell - the optimal time for the fight to take for maximum DPS numbers is between 3mins 20seconds or so and 4 minutes (no overlap between Berserk/Heroism). 2 Berserks/Hysterias and Heroism/Bloodlust in such a short period really inflate the numbers compared to a 5 or 6 minute fight with the same cooldowns.

I made the switch to feral 1 week ago for the guild so I am still trying to get the feel for the rotation down.


Saurfang no hystaria and I'm the mangle bot

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

so far I'm having fun as feral

Has anyone noticed a problem with feral charge-cat not showing up on oozes in PP? I know I charged oozes a number of times but when I look at the dazed hits I have 5 on PP, or when I look for it in logs I come up with:

[20:18:37.952] Bonedruid casts Feral Charge - Cat on Professor Putricide
[20:19:39.151] Bonedruid casts Feral Charge - Cat on Professor Putricide
[20:20:53.713] Bonedruid casts Feral Charge - Cat on Professor Putricide
[20:21:30.858] Bonedruid casts Feral Charge - Cat on Professor Putricide
[20:22:06.356] Bonedruid casts Feral Charge - Cat on Professor Putricide

Though I am certain I charged slimes, since I was often annoyed with how far behind the green I would end up landing. My theory is there is something of a special condition/flag on the mobs due to being immune to slows/snares other than the Abom regurgitate so that since charge only provides a slow in dazed and no damage there is something wonky happening that makes it not show up.

Parse is here if anyone has some insight to offer or better ways to look at it.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Saurfang - 10491 DPS(e):
- No Hysteria
- No Trix
- No Revitalize Ticks
- Only 1/4 Mangle Job (3/4 by another cat)
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Festergut - 10467 DPS(e):
- No Hysteria
- 8x Trix
- 4 Revitalize Tricks (24 Energy)
- Only 1/4 Mangle Job (3/4 by another cat)
- 1x Innervate Support
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Still have to work on Rip and Rake Uptimes.

p.s. 4xT10 is awsome. Save anything for it!

This is a nice help too:

Top Feral DPS Saurfang: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Top Feral DPS Festergut: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Top Feral DPS Bloodqueen: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Seeing as my guild has had a rough time getting Saurfang down on 25man, I haven't managed to get a quality parse to present for criticism. This afternoon I pug'd the new VOA boss and finally got something relevent.

This is with no tricks/hysteria/manglebot.

Toravon The Ice Watcher 25 - World of Logs

It looks like my rip and rake uptimes should be a higher, but I'm also low on shreds, so I'm kind of at a loss as to how to fix that. I've been working on the dummies for hours in the past couple days(both with and without the help of various Ovale scripts listed in the "Visualising" thread), and at times I've been able to bring my DoT uptimes up, but only at a large cost of shreds. I'm noticing throughout nearly all the logs posted in this thread, people are getting a lot more shreds in regardless of whether or not they are manglebotting. Normally in my guild runs I do have a mangle-bot, but my problem of not getting enough out of shred seems to persist even then.

Any thoughts/suggestions?