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06/05/09, 3:29 PM
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#61
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Glass Joe
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Looking for some advice.
First parse is before I got 2pc T8, second parse is from last nights raid. Looking for constructive criticism on what I may be doing wrong, or anything I can use to improve my DPS.
Also, just a few more parses for people to look through if they want a comparison from someone who doesn't have a strong amount of gear yet.
WWS:
Wow Web Stats
WMO from last nights raid:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Picked up t8.5 chest, and belt of the twilight assassin after raid.
Thanks!
Last edited by joeh312 : 06/10/09 at 12:49 PM.
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06/05/09, 3:35 PM
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#62
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Talanik
Yes, I know. A poster above me asked if I had Windfury (Which would offset the -20% haste), because it wasn't showing up on the WMO reports. I double checked our shaman it it showed that he dropped Windfury; but the buff didn't show up on any of the melee DPS. Must have been a bug with WMO, or perhaps since the Windfury canceled out the effect of the -20% haste aura, it didn't register?
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Like most totem effects, the windfury buff isn't logged. Only the totem spellcast is.
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06/11/09, 4:28 AM
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#63
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by joeh312
Looking for some advice.
First parse is before I got 2pc T8, second parse is from last nights raid. Looking for constructive criticism on what I may be doing wrong, or anything I can use to improve my DPS.
Also, just a few more parses for people to look through if they want a comparison from someone who doesn't have a strong amount of gear yet.
WWS:
Wow Web Stats
WMO from last nights raid:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Picked up t8.5 chest, and belt of the twilight assassin after raid.
Thanks!
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Hi,
my first post; have been a forum lurker.
I'm comparing our WMO for the XT fight, and noticed quite a bit discrepancy in our clearcasting procs:
Yours:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Mine:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
33 to 17 cc procs.
Izzit just RNG acting up? I'm a bit behind in %uptime of bleeds, but that doesnt account for more than twice than cc procs yeah?
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06/11/09, 10:50 AM
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#64
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Glass Joe
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First of all, I'm not the best at theorycraft or comparisons. That said, it appears it was just RNG being in my favor. From the looks of it you seem to have the advantage on gear, albeit not by much. As you said, uptime on bleeds can help with OOC procs, as can any haste increasing buff. Faster white swings = more white swings = more chances to proc (At least I believe this is how it works).
If someone else sees something I don't or has anything to add, feel free.
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06/12/09, 2:08 PM
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#65
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Glass Joe
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Here is a parse of my guild's first 25 man XT hardmode kill. I was lucky and had a DK giving me hysteria and a rogue giving me TotT. Bloodlust, speed pot, berserk, hysteria and TotT all at once let me peak around 30k DPS on the heart. 43 OoC procs let me squeeze in 17 FBs over the course of the fight for 7% of my total dmg. My SR uptime was 97% but my bleed uptimes seem a bit low... still good enough to take first place on the WMO druid leader board for the fight (for now), but I think there is room for a lot of improvement. Any other thoughts on this log?
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06/12/09, 2:12 PM
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#66
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Get off my lawn.
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Originally Posted by Aldhissla
Is anyone doing over 7k on Ignis? I feel like I still have a lot of room for improvement, but we (ferals) regularly outdps rogues and hunters on a lot of the tank and spank fights (admittedly on this parse the hunter and 1 of the rogues were slag potted).
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WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay in Engrish
A while ago, no swipe damage on constructs to pad meters (also slag-potted once).
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06/12/09, 2:15 PM
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#67
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Glass Joe
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Expertise versus other stats
I've learned a lot about my class from reading this forum, and have greatly improved my raid performance because of it. I still have a few questions, however. In my current raiding gear, I have no expertise. None. I have 4T8 (head and chest 8.5), and still am in my guild's top 3 melee dps. I have assembled a different set of gear that keeps me close to hit capped, and gets me my expertise, as well as some extra armor pen, but at a pretty hefty cost. My numbers in cat form (self buffed) are as follows:
Optional Set | Current Raid Gear
Attack Power 7121 | 7154
Haste 193 | 306
Hit 251 | 271
Armor Pen 406 | 356
Crit % 44.26% | 50.37%
Expertise Rating 33 | 10
My question is, is it worth it to sacrifice over 5% crit, and all the haste, as well as the 4T8 bonus (I would, however, be able to go 2T7 2T8) to benefit from Expertise?
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06/13/09, 8:31 AM
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#68
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Lightbringer
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Moz (zomm), comparing my personal best. You guys engage sooner, we pull back to center before doing anything. I missed a lot, honestly surprising since at the time I was using <1% avoidance from behind, though I did get parried 4 times. And wow, 32 Clearcasts is just amazing, I had better bleed uptime and got 8 fewer, not to mention worse crits. RNG Strikes again.
One other thing of note, while on a longer fight, I'm sure it will matter less, I'm noticing that on 3:30-4:00 minute fights, Berserking (4-5 for most people) has a significantly higher uptime than Mongoose (3-4) I really do need to switch.
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06/13/09, 6:48 PM
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#69
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Crushridge
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Originally Posted by Biggrim
I've learned a lot about my class from reading this forum, and have greatly improved my raid performance because of it. I still have a few questions, however. In my current raiding gear, I have no expertise. None. I have 4T8 (head and chest 8.5), and still am in my guild's top 3 melee dps. I have assembled a different set of gear that keeps me close to hit capped, and gets me my expertise, as well as some extra armor pen, but at a pretty hefty cost. My numbers in cat form (self buffed) are as follows:
Optional Set | Current Raid Gear
Attack Power 7121 | 7154
Haste 193 | 306
Hit 251 | 271
Armor Pen 406 | 356
Crit % 44.26% | 50.37%
Expertise Rating 33 | 10
My question is, is it worth it to sacrifice over 5% crit, and all the haste, as well as the 4T8 bonus (I would, however, be able to go 2T7 2T8) to benefit from Expertise?
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I would say no. Dodges are crappy because they have the potential to really mess with your rotation, but you'd need to get some bad RNG for it to constantly be a problem. If all you were losing was the crit, or the set bonus, then I think you could make the argument that its better to pick up the expertise (depending on the fight, and on other external factors, like how good you are at recovering from a poorly timed dodge)--but -5% crit, -4PT8, AND -103 haste is too big a price to pay.
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06/14/09, 2:24 PM
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#70
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King Hippo
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by Boevis
Moz (zomm), comparing my personal best. You guys engage sooner, we pull back to center before doing anything. I missed a lot, honestly surprising since at the time I was using <1% avoidance from behind, though I did get parried 4 times. And wow, 32 Clearcasts is just amazing, I had better bleed uptime and got 8 fewer, not to mention worse crits. RNG Strikes again.
One other thing of note, while on a longer fight, I'm sure it will matter less, I'm noticing that on 3:30-4:00 minute fights, Berserking (4-5 for most people) has a significantly higher uptime than Mongoose (3-4) I really do need to switch.
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No where near the numbers you two put out on Ignis, partially my screwing up but two turns in the slag pot doesn't help either. Both times I had combo points for a Rip but had to use them on Savage Roar as it dropped before I could get back onto him.
I had no idea how long the kill would take as we had our first real crack at the achievement tonight, we got that easily and I missed the second use of Berserk as I didn't use it early enough. I also missed at least one Tiger's Fury and possibly a second but it is hard to tell as being put in the Slag Pot delayed two uses of it.
I should really break my habit of opening with Pounce too, initial threat isn't the problem it used to be but old habits die hard and I used to play with some tanks with suboptimal threat generation.
I got two procs of Mongoose in the 3'19" WWS records me as active, this strikes me as low and I too should probably replace it with Berserking but as this doubles as my threat tanking weapon I think it will have to wait for now.
Apart from what I have picked up can you see anything more I am doing wrong?
Current Rawr file included as I tend to log out in solo gear. I forgot to restart PC before this raid too so I was getting under 10fps for the fight which certainly doesn't help.
Last edited by Cluey : 06/16/09 at 10:13 PM.
Reason: Paid account WWS link.
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06/14/09, 4:49 PM
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#71
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Blackrock (EU)
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06/15/09, 10:27 AM
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#72
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Barthilas
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Here is my General Vezax from tonight (6282 dps, 6342 actual... lol) (after changing my gems back from armor pen to agi):
WoW Meter Online - General Vezax tonight
And someone asked about 7k dps on Ignis. This is me on Ignis 2/3 weeks ago, before I changed all my gems to armor pen and nerfed my dps.
WoW Meter Online - Ignis 27-05-2009
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06/17/09, 12:22 PM
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#73
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Crushridge
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Last nights Ignis kill: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
@Calysta: The one thing that really jumps out at me is the 16 hit gem you have on your pants, and the 8 agility 8 hit gem in your gloves. If you're gemming hit because you don't like how misses interfere with your DPS, then that's fine; however, point-for-point, hit gems are quite a bit lower on the DPS scale than agility or armor pen gems.
EDIT: WWS has your savage roar at a 93% up time; increasing that will substantially increase your DPS.
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06/17/09, 1:11 PM
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#74
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Glass Joe
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I can't for the life of me figure out what I am doing wrong. Granted compared to most of the guilds posted in here mine takes much longer with the fights. But I just see such a huge dropoff compared to everyone else and I can't figure out what it is I am doing wrong. My gear isn't bad and I do top the charts for my guild but as soon as I look at the stuff on here I start scratching my head as I know part of it is me I just can't figure out what.
WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay in Engrish
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06/17/09, 2:11 PM
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#75
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Bald Bull
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Well, as you say Karnexus - a lot of it is how long the fight is. Most Ignis kills posted are sub 4 minutes; yours is about 6. That's going to make bloodlust a lot more valuable. Your spec is perfectly reasonable. You're wearing a lot of Valorous gear instead of the better gear from Ulduar or the hardmodes of T7, which is somewhat of a concern; most Valorous gear isn't well-optimized for cat. But all non-valorous gear is fairly reasonable. You aren't a JC though, and that does hurt you somewhat - and alchemy isn't ideal either. But that's not a huge deal.
My gut feeling is that you're doing too many FBs and allowing your rips to fall off.
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