Moonkin Beginner Guide (obsolete; use the TTT article now (in my sig)) - Page 30

nesf · 10/31/09, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by thrillz

I have a question regarding wich trinkets I should use, I hope it will not be seen against the rules or anyhing.
But I tried to vary the following trinkets with Rawr: [Mithril Pocketwatch], [Fetish of Volatile Power], [Abyssal Rune], [Mark of the war Prisoner. I could also use a pure sp resto trinket like [Solace of the Fallen] but Don't think that would increase my DPS.

I tried all those combinations on Rawr and it rated war + mithril pocketwatch as highest burst/sustained damage points. Does Rawr take the /use of [Fetish of Volatile Power] into account because it seems Rawr undervalues this item pretty much. Also wich 2 trinkets would you recommend me to use?

You lose a lot of dps by relying on a trinket slot for +hit. Honestly, you need to look for a better place to get it, perhaps [Firestorm Band] or [Boots of the Icy Floe]. Then you can have Abyssal Rune and Mithril Pocketwatch until you can get [Reign of the Dead]. You also should probably be using 2T8/2T9, so if you have the T8 gloves that'd be another source of +hit to tap into.

Fetish of Volatile Power is very weak for us. There are some ways to get the most out of the trinket (like using Starfall to ramp up the bonus quickly at the start) but honestly it's just not useful for a moonkin. Both the Pocketwatch and Rune will get you more dps and reduce the amount of cooldowns you need to be watching.

Frozn · 11/05/09, 4:03 AM

Allright so I checked in every single thread regarding moonkins and seems like I cannot find what I'm looking for. At the moment, the principal goal of most end-game raiding guilds is to defeat Anub in 25man heroic mode.

During that encounter, hurricane is very important for moonkins and is the spell that will be channeled the most. I read & heard everywhere that clearcasted / ng' hurricanes are a big dps / mana improvement.

So here is my question: Anyone know an addon that will let you know very clearly when you get a NG's proc? Not a lil box of text that you will be probably too busy to look at.. I mean a sound or a text flashing in red.. yah know?
(Yes I'm too lazy to look at all my buffs & try to find the NG's proc before each hurricane).

Another question: Seems like I cannot find this answer either. Should we cast IS + MF on all 4 mobs before starting to hurricane?

Thank you.

Fonzey · 11/05/09, 5:25 AM

Originally Posted by Frozn

Allright so I checked in every single thread regarding moonkins and seems like I cannot find what I'm looking for. At the moment, the principal goal of most end-game raiding guilds is to defeat Anub in 25man heroic mode.

During that encounter, hurricane is very important for moonkins and is the spell that will be channeled the most. I read & heard everywhere that clearcasted / ng' hurricanes are a big dps / mana improvement.

So here is my question: Anyone know an addon that will let you know very clearly when you get a NG's proc? Not a lil box of text that you will be probably too busy to look at.. I mean a sound or a text flashing in red.. yah know?
(Yes I'm too lazy to look at all my buffs & try to find the NG's proc before each hurricane).

Another question: Seems like I cannot find this answer either. Should we cast IS + MF on all 4 mobs before starting to hurricane?

Thank you.

You could configure grid to display in the centre Icon the NG logo.

Alternatively, a decent combat text addon will suffice.

Mjoedgaard · 11/05/09, 6:25 AM

He could install Powaaura and make a big fat icon in the middle of the screen

klüger · 11/05/09, 8:53 AM

Originally Posted by Frozn

Another question: Seems like I cannot find this answer either. Should we cast IS + MF on all 4 mobs before starting to hurricane?

Thank you.

You should not.

I just keep up dots (or atleast MF) on anub and nuke him until adds are in position)

Erdluf · 11/05/09, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by Frozn

So here is my question: Anyone know an addon that will let you know very clearly when you get a NG's proc? Not a lil box of text that you will be probably too busy to look at.. I mean a sound or a text flashing in red.. yah know?
(Yes I'm too lazy to look at all my buffs & try to find the NG's proc before each hurricane).

TellMeWhen can give you a big icon when you get selected buffs.

This Dreambound-Druid post shows several Power Auras settings. Includes screenshots of OoC and NG.

Poromu · 11/05/09, 11:15 AM

To be perfectly honest, it's a moot point, whether or not you have a OoC proc or NG is up, you will still have to aoe when adds are up.

The DPS requirement to Anub is fairly easy to hit, the mana requirement can be supplemented with mana pot (if you're not using frost prot pot), innervate and mana tide.

Frozn · 11/05/09, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Erdluf

TellMeWhen can give you a big icon when you get selected buffs.

This Dreambound-Druid post shows several Power Auras settings. Includes screenshots of OoC and NG.

Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for! This will suit me perfectly.

P.S: What do you mean by dps requirement for a moonkin?

Originally Posted by Poromu

The DPS requirement to Anub is fairly easy to hit, the mana requirement can be supplemented with mana pot (if you're not using frost prot pot), innervate and mana tide.

My overall dps is going between 8-9k atm but it's still very low compared to feral druids / ret pals / rogues /mages who can easily go up to 12-13k with the same gearscore.

That's why I tried to get some informations here about the exact rotation and how to improve my dps even more. :\

But once again, TellMeWhen is perfect for me so far! big thx

melth · 11/06/09, 5:43 AM

That's why I tried to get some informations here about the exact rotation and how to improve my dps even more. :\

I found this blog post + comments very helpful for Anub'arak. Hope it helps

M� nze · 11/08/09, 6:40 AM

You could also include [Kreeg's Stout Beatdown]in the Consumables Section since it stacks with bufffood and brings ~10DPS.Not much ,but still.

Sangdraxx · 11/18/09, 4:13 AM

I have been using [Eye of the Broodmother] and [Pandora's Plea], I just recently picked up [Talisman of Resurgence] for my resto gear but I decided to give it a go with my Moonkin set and I liked the burst results with popping [Potion of Speed] and the proc on my first Lunar Eclipse but I'm still not happy with my overall damage.

Truly I think its my Trinkets as most of the rest of my gear is ilvl 232 or higher I apologize but I'm stumped as to were I can get some more Sustained damage If its not the Trinkets then I'm not sure of a quick fix or if there even is a quick fix I will be pushing to get [Reign of the Unliving] but after that what should I go with I'm sure I will get [Abyssal Rune] but I'm little above soft haste cap already... I think I probably need to do a total overhaul to my gear...

Iamak · 11/18/09, 4:55 AM

Some of you strongly believed that early cancellation of the lunar eclipse would let you cast SF with the enhanced crit, thus enabling you to more likely proc solar. Some of you believed cancellation of the lunar eclipse killed the enhanced crit chance.

Were the different opinions resolved?

janrael · 11/18/09, 7:33 AM

Originally Posted by Iamak

Some of you strongly believed that early cancellation of the lunar eclipse would let you cast SF with the enhanced crit, thus enabling you to more likely proc solar. Some of you believed cancellation of the lunar eclipse killed the enhanced crit chance.

Were the different opinions resolved?

Completely, it's a big dps increase. There's a mod called WiseEclipse that will automate it for you.

fullaflash · 11/19/09, 6:09 AM

Hey, if you are a bad like me and can't yet cycle through the eclipse rotation consistently (i.e. you have trouble with movement, refreshing dot's etc), is it better to simply go for four piece tier 9 (lvl245)? I will only lose 20dps on the spreadsheet, but i'm consistently falling about 600 dps below what the spreadsheet says.

If I therefore take some of the 'skill' requirement out (and the tier 8 2 piece bonus does reward good play) then shouldn't my dps go up? For the T9 bonus is just a flat increase, while the tier 8 requires you to be really hitting those eclipses consistently..

edit: oh in case anyone is wondering, the bits i will replace are gloves and chest. I don't have access to lvl 226 gloves.

Royalite · 11/19/09, 9:48 AM

Originally Posted by fullaflash

Hey, if you are a bad like me and can't yet cycle through the eclipse rotation consistently (i.e. you have trouble with movement, refreshing dot's etc), is it better to simply go for four piece tier 9 (lvl245)? I will only lose 20dps on the spreadsheet, but i'm consistently falling about 600 dps below what the spreadsheet says.

If I therefore take some of the 'skill' requirement out (and the tier 8 2 piece bonus does reward good play) then shouldn't my dps go up? For the T9 bonus is just a flat increase, while the tier 8 requires you to be really hitting those eclipses consistently..

edit: oh in case anyone is wondering, the bits i will replace are gloves and chest. I don't have access to lvl 226 gloves.

It sounds like you're not tracking your dots/procs with an addon which would get anyone lost in their rotation with everything going on in a fight. Also sounds like you're not using Wise Eclipse.

With Wise Eclipse you should fairly consistently hit the solar proc coming out of the lunar one. Unless you're really not tracking your timers and refreshing dots right at the transition and thus working against the addon. With the addon, you only have to worry about hitting one proc the lunar one.

I can't speak about your gearing question but I can advise that certain addons can improve the performance problems you speak of.