Originally Posted by Boevis
Jheusse: The DPE from Rake will never be better than Shred without the DoT tics, I don't know how you think that's even possible at your gear level (not just mechanically, but experience wise you should know better!) When people are talking about "should we be using Rake" right now, we mean "should we be using Rake at all" since with high Armor Penetration, Shred easily passes Rake in terms of raw DPE.
In terms of priority: SR, Mangle, Rake, Rip. It's not just ok to clip SR, but also Mangle, and I recommend clipping them infact to prevent unnecessary downtime due to lag/misses. Never clip Rake, really no point in clipping it anyway. Rip can be clipped in various circumstances like at <6 seconds left with 5cp and nearly full energy, or (and I recommend doing this) when about to switch off of a Boss for a while (Razorscale taking off, Sapphiron frost breath, Heigan dance phase, Yogg Brain, etc.)
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Boevis:
I do know better, at least in theory. As you've deduced, I've been in on some kills and gotten some gear. I'm mainly casting about slightly to eliminate possible reasons that my dps isn't landing where it likely should be, based on observed comments of other ferals here, various feral blogs, and even what Rawr is projecting me to come out with. First option was that there had been some evolution in the priorities we use for cat DPS, second was misgearing/mis-gemming/mis-enchanting, third was raid makeup/buffs, and fourth was simple failure to execute on my part/terribad.
So I'm not off on the DPS rotation and FbN's recommendations. I'm still Agi-gemmed since much of my cat gear is bear shared, and will be until I can truly separate them, but my gear is appropriate if not BiS. My raid configs are usually well set up, so I guess it comes down to execution on my part, noting that my keyboard agility is lacking and DPS often gives way to situational awareness, especially since I glance down at the keys and occasionally click my finishers like Rip.
So for example while I could excuse only 6400 dps on Hodir with "I was avoiding the constant icicles too much to live in spotlights, dead dps does no dps" I still wonder if I'm hitting the limits of my physical coordination and situational awareness. Ferals tend to top charts on a lot of Uld fights, but I can almost never catch the two rogues in my raid unless I have a good night on Vezax, and a fury warrior often tops me. I will at some point drop into the WWS thread, though the likely result is "dude you're terribad".
Anyway, to contribute usefully to the discussion, I agree with the clipping of Rip on cases like the brain and razorscale, the opposite direction is times like XT-002 just as he says "so tired" I usually try to cap my points and Savage Roar before the heart drops so I can burst as hard as possible early in the heart phase. Similarly the tentacles in the brain room provide quick combo points same way. Actually I do that on trash that's about to die too, who doesn't?
Cat notes in Ulduar, many of them I'm sure common knowledge:
1- Cat Feral Charge is almost tailor-made for getting into position on Yogg-Saron's Brain, I had too many headaches groping for good positioning for shreds, charge is perfect.
2- If using the "drag guardians to the door" method on Yogg, it's often not a good idea to Rip or the mob dies too fast.
3- I end up with a lot more mangles on Mim because he's constantly turning to face me, I mangle as I run through him.
4- Laser barrage is the best time to Berserk on Mim, the only time the bastard holds still
5- I prefer to Berserk while standing on a snowdrift right after Flash Freeze
6- On Freya I open the fight with hitting her with Rake a few times to get to 5CP as fast/cheaply as possible so I can start the add waves with a 5 point Roar up.
7- Auriaya I waver between continually single target dps-ing her (mangling since I'm at her feet) and working in swipe spam for the swarm adds. On the similar situation on Kologarn I stay single target.
8- For a feral cat, Vezax is Patchwerk reincarnated as a crayfish. My best night on him I think was 6100.