Visualising the optimal cat rotation ingame - Page 22

Alcohorlick · 04/15/10, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by cystacae

I have picked up the development of the add on Face Mauler. So if you would like, you can look into using the latest release v3.320 and it is on curse.

I gave it a quick go the other night and the most obvious thing I've noticed is it's not telling you to Savage Roar after gaining your first combo points in a fight, and seems to wait for more.(probably 5, I didn't take detailed notes at the time)
I'm pretty sure you want to get SR going as soon as you can.

Darkii · 04/15/10, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Alcohorlick

I gave it a quick go the other night and the most obvious thing I've noticed is it's not telling you to Savage Roar after gaining your first combo points in a fight, and seems to wait for more.(probably 5, I didn't take detailed notes at the time)
I'm pretty sure you want to get SR going as soon as you can.

I read somewhere on the forums that toskks calculator recommends SR at 5. I used the calculator myself and it showed a dps increase by using SR at 5 instead of my usual 2.

Alcohorlick · 04/16/10, 8:34 AM

Originally Posted by Darkii

I read somewhere on the forums that toskks calculator recommends SR at 5. I used the calculator myself and it showed a dps increase by using SR at 5 instead of my usual 2.

I'm talking about the start of each fight only, rather than once you're into your stride, where 5 points are preferable.
I always get SR up asap at the start of fights and I've not noticed anything saying otherwise anywhere...
Have I missed something or is it just on oversight in the Face Mauler logic?

cystacae · 04/17/10, 12:53 AM

Face Mauler has been updated with some changes to the suggester/algorithm based upon simulations. however it may not be perfect. It is currently posted on the curseforge development page waiting for the moderator to pass it for curse distribution. It changes the SR suggestion, changes the Rip suggestion and uses energies based upon the 2pT10. Try it out and please make suggestions to make it more optimized. I do not want to code bloat it but I do want the most out of it. I do appreciate the testing help!

Thanks,
Cystacae
Etherwind of US-Darkspear

sissy · 04/18/10, 6:11 AM

Originally Posted by Gurrshael

Well, I can't test it with non-english client but it should work since the names of all spells are taken from the game (localized). Try the latest version downloadable from the original link. I changed few things that might affect localization issues.

Btw, in this new version I have replaced FBN's old suggester with a brand new version based on this simulation craft priority list. I tested it on a target dummy and it seems to work just fine. Still, I didn't test it in raid so there may be few hidden bugs.

Finally I found the reason for not showing the GUI in cat form (bear form was ok) on a German client. It has something to do with the ingame translation of the names of the stances, I put the German name for the cat form and now it works.
["Cat Form"] = "Katzengestalt",
Funny, because the dire bear form is still in English and it works.

Gurrshael · 04/18/10, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by sissy

Finally I found the reason for not showing the GUI in cat form (bear form was ok) on a German client. It has something to do with the ingame translation of the names of the stances, I put the German name for the cat form and now it works.
["Cat Form"] = "Katzengestalt",
Funny, because the dire bear form is still in English and it works.

That was because I somehow accidentally removed name localization for CatForm. Thanks for the report, it is fixed in the latest version along with few minor tweaks (downloadable from the original link as always).

pRo-Micha · 04/20/10, 1:29 PM

Gurrshael:
When I install FBNLite (in folder FBNLite) it shows up in my addons as 'incompatible'. Is there a fix for that, or what causes it? Any help would be appreciated!

Clausm · 04/29/10, 6:02 AM

Just check the box "use older versions" or so in addons menu.

cystacae · 04/29/10, 7:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gurrshael

That was because I somehow accidentally removed name localization for CatForm. Thanks for the report, it is fixed in the latest version along with few minor tweaks (downloadable from the original link as always).

Gurrshael, seems you and I are focusing the same way on development of a streamlined to help Feral DPS. I only picked up Face Mauler because both the prior supporting developers left the game or changed classes or something. I am now temporarily abandoning the not needed Face Mauler, until people stop helping the feral community, as you are working on FBN Lite. It allows me to focus on Face Melter for shadow priests. I appreciate the hard work you are doing and so does the community. Keep it up and if you need any help I will be more than willing to lend a hand if that time ever occurs.

With Honor!

Quadrophenia · 04/29/10, 8:42 PM

I'm getting a strange bug with FBN Lite. I seem to be getting move suggestions without the proper amount of energy avaible to perform the move.

Ironhyde · 04/30/10, 1:05 PM

This is most likely from a latency issue. I know that the original FBN had a latency adjuster but I am not sure if FBN lite still has it in its stripped form.

Quadrophenia · 04/30/10, 6:02 PM

Strange since I'm running with 50 latency, maybe another addon is causing problems.

Gurrshael · 05/02/10, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by Quadrophenia

I'm getting a strange bug with FBN Lite. I seem to be getting move suggestions without the proper amount of energy avaible to perform the move.

Yeah, about 2 weeks ago I tried how would it feel if the addon suggested the move even if you didn't have the energy for it. Don't know why I thought that it could be better than the old style

I've already reverted it back in the latest version. FBNLite has similar latency adjuster as the old FBN did, just with few minor tweaks that could help here and there.

dgkiller · 05/28/10, 9:08 AM

I switched to FBN Lite and I like it so far, the only modification i could suggest is whenever you are refreshing SR before it expires to keep it out of sync with rip, you could have it wait on energy to fill back up some more to maximize it's time.

exemple: 5sec left on both SR and Rip, you have ~30energy and 5cp points, instead of using SR right there, you could wait the extra 5sec before recasting SR to refill on energy.

Or if anyone knows how i could modify the code to reflect this, I would appreciate it.

Isdochegal · 05/28/10, 9:55 AM

Originally Posted by dgkiller

exemple: 5sec left on both SR and Rip, you have ~30energy and 5cp points, instead of using SR right there, you could wait the extra 5sec before recasting SR to refill on energy.

That's not a good idea. If you refresh the Savage Roar with 5 seconds left on both SR and Rip, you can get a new Rip up as soon as the old one is finished (with enough energy or Omen of Clarity procs). But if you wait 5 seconds to recast Savage Roar, you will certainly loose Rip uptime since it takes at least 3 seconds to build up 5 combo points for a new Rip.