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Old 03/04/10, 12:56 PM   #196
Rototoro
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I agree with thefool808, and would reinforce that the talents that will allow you to tank heal (Empowered Touch and Living Seed) are probably most useful since you may be asked to switch from raid to tank healing late in a fight (Festergut and Putricide are good examples, it may occur on other fights depending on your strategy and composition).

I also agree in general about not mucking about with Tranquility, though it has an interesting new quirky use on Sindragosa. When you get the Unchained Magic, you can use it for a fairly high throughput heal and it only puts a single debuff on you. Since you're not spamming HoTs anyway, the channeling of Tranquility isn't preventing you from continuing to do so, which is its usual downside. You can time it so that the Tranquility ends just after the current 8 second countdown. Certainly not worth spending talent points on though.

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Old 03/04/10, 1:19 PM   #197
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Originally Posted by Rototoro View Post
You can time it so that the Tranquility ends just after the current 8 second countdown. Certainly not worth spending talent points on though.
What? Tranquility is modified by haste so you will have a sub 6 second channel and the instability debuff is 4 seconds not 8.

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Old 03/04/10, 4:05 PM   #198
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Originally Posted by Playered View Post
What? Tranquility is modified by haste so you will have a sub 6 second channel and the instability debuff is 4 seconds not 8.
Right you are about the debuff duration - had forgotten the change to that last week.

I had been using it previously in that way (well, once per fight), since the duration of the debuff was longer.

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Old 03/05/10, 11:11 PM   #199
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Originally Posted by ttyl View Post
...WG -> Nourish spammed for Harvest Soul.

Semi-related: I couldn't kill the frostmourne room mob before 1 min Did you guys Bash to interrupt?
A bear-bash macro seems to be the way to go, based on what I've read. (We've gotten there, but I haven't had a chance to personally try that.) Cat-maim should work as well, even considering the time spent to shift and get 1 CP. I'd really like to cyclone, but I suspect it won't work, and have seen no confirmation either way. War stomp also works, but alas, I am a night elf.

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Old 03/05/10, 11:39 PM   #200
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Seems like Tranquility gives one stack per tick now. So you can't really use it while Unchained.

How long does it take to shift and Maim if you don't have Furor?


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Old 03/05/10, 11:43 PM   #201
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Originally Posted by Arawethion View Post
Seems like Tranquility gives one stack per tick now. So you can't really use it while Unchained.

How long does it take to shift and Maim if you don't have Furor?
7.5 seconds, but you can split it up into a 4 second and 3.5 second interval if you shift into Cat right after Bashing and get your combo point up then. You could also save an OoC proc for the actual Maim I imagine.

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Old 03/06/10, 12:59 AM   #202
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For the frostmourne room, as long as the king is alive you should be able to kill the spirit. Just make sure to bash the first cast, and then proceed to spam heals on the king is he has low health.

You want to do this for two reasons: If multiple DPS get put into the frostmourne room in a row that can't heal, the king *is* at risk of dying. If the king dies, your DPS will die and Arthas will proceed to shit on your tank. He keeps his health throughout the fight.

Also, I believe it's a buff, but the more health the king has the more damage he does. So if the king is missing any health and you spam heals on the king, then he'll do more damage (most likely more damage than you would have if you were wrath spamming in that time period).

So as long as you get the first bash off and heal the king up, you should be able to get the ghsot down no problem.

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Old 03/06/10, 1:35 AM   #203
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The one and only time I've had to do the Frostmourne room all I needed was 1 interrupt.

Bash'd it then proceeded to heal the King as hard and as much as I could. The mob was at maybe 5% when it started channeling again. I panicked, tried to shift to Cat and Maim, failed horribly, gave up and ended up just spamming the King. The mob died easily.

Next time I go in I'm just going to heal like crazy, interrupt one cast, and heal through the second. When I entered the room the King was at about half health, so unless the King is somehow much lower I think this strategy should work next time.

Il dolce far niente.

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Old 03/06/10, 3:42 AM   #204
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Just to add, there really is plenty of leeway in the interruption and healing. The first time my soul was harvested I missed the first cast like an idiot, and it dropped Menethil down to about 10%. I kept healing him, bashed the second cast and I still got out with time to spare. The second time I bashed the first cast and he never tried again--I think I was only in for about 20 seconds that time.

It's not even possible to maim a cast unless you pre-generate the combo point for it, or spec into furor. Rake (the cheapest cp builder, if I'm not mistaken) costs 40 energy, and maim costs 35 energy, for a total of 75 energy, or 7.5 seconds of energy regen. Given that you have to spend a GCD to shift into cat, the channel will still end well before you could actually get the maim off.

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Old 03/06/10, 8:03 AM   #205
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I have been in the sword a few times now and I never needed to interrupt the add. Just spam healing the king was more than enough, at full health he deals so much damage that the channel just doesn't matter. Keep him topped up and watch the show, very easy.

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Old 03/06/10, 10:29 AM   #206
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I just heal the friendly guy and don't interrupt anything. Works fine. LB stack ->RJ->RG->Nourish spam.

e: For those unaware, the friendly guy has a damage multiplier the more HP he has. Therefore you get him to full HP and keep him there and win without a problem.

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Old 03/06/10, 5:59 PM   #207
Rototoro
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Originally Posted by Arawethion View Post
Seems like Tranquility gives one stack per tick now. So you can't really use it while Unchained.
This is true now also. I built myself up to 12 stacks pretty quickly with it. Barkskin works wonders when that happens.

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Old 03/06/10, 6:49 PM   #208
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I haven't yet been teleported in to the Frostmourne room but presumably War Stomp would work for us Horde Druids?

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Old 03/07/10, 3:41 AM   #209
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Originally Posted by swills View Post
I haven't yet been teleported in to the Frostmourne room but presumably War Stomp would work for us Horde Druids?
War stomp does indeed work.

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Old 03/07/10, 7:26 AM   #210
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Could cyclone be worth it? I never tried and assuming it works I'm not really sure if the invulnerability time maybe bad.
On the other hand in will allow plenty of free time to get the king up to full health or just to slack a bit for mana regen.

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