The Restoration Itemization Thread for 3.3 - Page 10

Numeno · 02/02/10, 4:40 AM

Originally Posted by slourette

I disagree with this statement. If you don't know what to do with your freed GCD from the set bonus, then what will you do with your extra 4-5% haste from swapping your crit tier to haste pieces? On average, the set bonus will save you one GCD for every 7 rejuvs you cast. Assuming that rejuv is at between 50-80% of our GCD's, the set bonus is equivalent to a 7-11% haste buff, which can yield throughput beyond what is possible with just haste due to the cap. The set bonus is worth significantly more than the haste lost in order to achieve the set bonus, and it's a straight upgrade, not a trade off.

The strongest argument I see for not taking the set bonus is that it will save you one GCD every 7 rejuvs on average, which means you can be unlucky. However, I believe that probability that the output of the set bonus will drop below what one would get by simply stacking haste pieces of gear is very small.

Maybe heroic fights will make a difference, but right now even not at the haste cap, I have zero issues blanketing a raid with rejuvs when needed. I also have zero issues casting a 1.04 second nourish if needed.

In 25m I agree with everyone else, great bonus. In 10m though, while I'm not opposed to using it and probably will just out of lazyness of not having 10m and 25m sets, the bonus just seems rather trivial. Rejuv crits at least made tank healing output higher, or made the raw output of rejuv blanketing higher on an aura fight.

I really wish this would have just created a rejuv even on a target with a rejuv already there. So the person would have 2 rejuvs ticking. The priest 2p and Shaman 4p both create what seems to be a stacking dot. When it gets applied it adds to the heals already on the target. No reason why they couldn't have made this just stack with an existing rejuv.

Payday · 02/02/10, 11:18 PM

New weapons dropped by Lich King

25H 284 Archus, Greatstaff of Antonidas Crit rating Staff
25H 284 Royal Scepter of Terenas II Crit/mp5 Mace

10H 271 Halion, Staff of Forgotten Love Crit/Haste No Regen Staff
10H 271 Tel'thas, Dagger of the Blood King Crit/Haste No Regen Dagger
10H 271 Valius, Gavel of the Lightbringer Crit/mp5 Mace

I'm not terribly impressed with any of these options. Choice looks to be either Dying Light 277 or Tel'thas 271 with Sundial of Eternal Dusk 277.

The staff will make squeezing in 4 piece possible easily, the latter will certainly have much more spellpower, but could make 4 piece tricky and the loss of regen might or might not affect you. A druid using double solace should be fine with the second combination, but without the regen might be too low.

edit: Incorrectly included Bloodsurge thinking it was a dagger. Corrected using Tel'thas dagger from 10 man heroic.

I'm still leaning towards Dying Light for my personal preference.

kfr · 02/02/10, 11:34 PM

druids can't use swords so bloodsurge isn't an option

Payday · 02/03/10, 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by kfr

druids can't use swords so bloodsurge isn't an option

Quite right, mistakenly thought it was a dagger. I've corrected the post. It seems the 10 man dagger is the best 1H option even against the 277 1H weapons from 25 man non LK bosses.

• Hamlet · 02/03/10, 1:08 AM

Looks like they completely failed at the 284 level. Those 277 options are nice, but they'll be hotly contested by DPS, are probably better on them, and don't really outstrip Trauma anyway.

kfr · 02/03/10, 4:25 AM

WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay

7 logs of 25 BQL. These are all with Trauma + 4pt10 + RR on 6/7 fights

I ran 14/0/57 with revitalize and about 810 haste.

Log 15 is where i didn't use Rapid Rejuv glyph

Glyphs I used were - Rejuv, Swiftmend and Rapid Rejuv. (swapped RR out for Wild Growth on #15)

avanlee · 02/03/10, 8:33 PM

anyone else considering Wrathful Gladiator's Blade of Celerity - Items - Sigrie as their pve healing mh?

Drane · 02/03/10, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by goodolarchie

So, anyone have a log with 4t10 using Glyph of Rejuvenation/RR on Blood Queen/festergut 25?

Here's BQL / Festergut with 4t10 / Glyph of RR:
BQL: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
Festergut: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

BQL was probably lowered by the fact of me + our other resto druid splitting up the raid, so 75% of the raid had rejuv on them at any given time.

♦ Carebare · 02/04/10, 12:52 AM

Valithria Log. I did lose my stack at one point toward the end, but the fight was nearly over.

Edit to add: I probably should have worn T9 for both the 2 and 4 pc bonus, since the T10 isn't doing much to help. I'll definitely do that next week.

Drane · 02/04/10, 1:39 AM

Here's our Valithria kill, I'm waiting on our tank to email me his complete log, since mine got fucked up from the constant portaling and such, but mine is just cut to the fight length of the kill: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Got to 40 stacks at the end, and I used Nourish / Rapid Rejuv / Swiftmend glyphs; does Glyph of Rejuv work on her? I guess I should've tested that.

Also yea, totally forgot about T9 especially for the nourish increase.

• Hamlet · 02/04/10, 2:01 AM

Glyph of Rejuv doesn't matter; she starts at 50% HP.

Kluian · 02/04/10, 9:11 AM

You want to wear t9 on Dreamwalker as both bonuses will benefit you in healing her, while T10 won't (unless your SP in t10 is substantially higher).

• Hamlet · 02/04/10, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kluian

You want to wear t9 on Dreamwalker as both bonuses will benefit you in healing her, while T10 won't (unless your SP in t10 is substantially higher).

That's the whole question--the set bonuses don't do anything that amazing, and you lose a lot of spellpower. This is a job for TreeCalcs. There are a lot of other little optimizations I want to look into (Revitalizing meta, gearing for crit over haste, Trauma is probably bad, Althor's Abacus is probably good, Living Seed).

• Hamlet · 02/05/10, 3:54 PM

Trauma buff:
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - So when will Trauma be buffed too ????

Xasthur · 02/05/10, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

Trauma buff:
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - So when will Trauma be buffed too ????

Change seems to already be in - resulted in 11.1% of my healing in a ToC on Twin Val'kyrs with a strict 5x1 rotation. Curious to see more logs on other fights to see how it performs.

edit: Also the SCT spam is ridiculous, had to filter it out.