I realize they are contradictory and that is somewhat of the argument I'm trying to make. Is it really doing anything that our rejuv wouldn't do already.

Your argument of it's important when the dmg in is greater than the raid healing out is why I think it is showing so favorably on Sindragosa where you are frequently not healing. But how many fights in content is this the case. While most gearing is moot this mace has a somewhat significant impact in gearing due to our haste constraints and I am trying to maintain a minimal haste gemming and not speccing into CF. I question Trauma's true worth based on the fact it has 0 haste and gearing becomes quite a bit harder w/o the weapon haste.

Right now Royal Scepter seems like its going to win out for me unless I can be convinced on the worth of the Trauma heals.

I switched to T9 myself and used normal glyph of rejuv. Not sure how glyph of rapid rejuv would work out entirely, but really i only apply rejuv to get the 20% bonus on nourish spam so i'm not sure faster rejuvs would reall help out over the benefit of a slow constant rejuvs + nourish + 20% bonus.. ie you may ended up casting more rejuvs in a fight to keep your nourish bonus up at the expens of having more nourishes. i'll have to do some WOL data mining to see this in fact.

25 man i got only 29 stacks or so.. 10 man, i had a hard time being that i never ended up on the side where the portals spawned

At 4200 SP, a no-set-bonus Rejuv heals for about 19200. A Glyphed, Crit, Nourish+3 with Living Seed heals for about 18600.

Casting more Rejuv's "at the expense of having [fewer] Nourishes." is a good thing. With numbers like those, the only way Nourish is a win is if your haste is so low that Nature's Grace isn't wasted or if you are running with 4t7 and have an incredible crit rate.

If Valithria starts at 50% health and it goes up from there, you aren't getting any benefit from [Glyph of Rejuvenation]

Hmm, I wasn't aware that WoL had that issue with tracking Valynr shields. There were two other maces in our raid and it stands to reason that a resto druid would get a small shield on a target before a couple of holy priests often. All the same, even the two holy priests had a slightly larger chunk of their EH as shields than my trauma proc, but I suppose at least that could be easily seen as shield snipes the heal of a trauma proc.

Yes the RR glyph is worth it. A few people have pointed out that 1 cast of rejuv beats 1 cast of nourish. The only time this isn't true is if you are able to use a significant portion of a Nature's Grace proc on nourish. This would require next to no haste I think on gear though.

Assumeing you don't clip, the more rejuvs you are able to cast the better. It is our largest heal based on cast time. I'm not sure why someone would clip though. While we are going for the most heals possible, you shouldn't be sitting there waiting to cast rejuv exactly when it runs out. You should be casting a nourish. You will certainly lose .5-1 seconds of rejuv time. Not casting for half a second is much worse than makeing sure rejuv is up 100% of the time.



One thing that could screw this up is the rotation that is needed due to portals. If you are able to get only 2 rejuvs in between portals no matter if you have the glyph or not, then it doesn't seem worth it. I think I would have to clip rejuv to cast a second if I didn't have the glpyh though. With the glpyh I can cast 2 easily.

While not a huge reason, RR also benefits from lust while nourish most likely does not.

I think HT beats Nourish during lust, even without Naturalist.

3/3 CF costs 7 talent points. After 53 points in Resto, where can 7 more add 6-10% effective healing? Compare just the stats of 277 Trauma to 284 Royal Scepter: 29 Int, 55 Crit, 154 Sp*. Will that add 6-10% effective healing? And if it does, you should ask: Sometimes it might, most of the time it won't, considering we average 70-80% overheal. All we can do is compare raw healing, which is what all healing classes gear for.

*57 + 23 + 5 (socket bonuses guess) + 69 (assuming Scepter has 60 haste which is equal to 3 Runed over 3 20 haste gems you'd have to use w/ Trauma to stay haste capped) So, yes, the haste on Scepter is accounted for.

edit: WoL says Protection of the Ancient Kings was 40% of my healing on our LK attempts. 3 other Vals: Disc Priest had 4%, Shaman had 8%, Paladin had 21%. Definitely something weird in WoL's absorb tracking.

Another thing - fairly trival, but interesting - that I have noticed is that it will bounce between members of different parties/raids.

Has the live cooldown been discovered on 264 Sliver of Pure Ice? WoWhead obviously still shows the datamined one minute cooldown still, but I can't link it on Emerald Dream yet to see if it is indeed one minute.

I can confirm for you that the cooldown on that item is 2 minutes.

The benefits of both Val'anyr and Trauma can be pretty difficult to quantify since in many situations all the shield (and proc) does is make your (or someone else's) next hot tick overheal more. While both procs provide visible numbers on meters, quite often all you are doing is stealing from yourself (then again, in those situations you will often find that it wouldn't really matter anyway).

I'd say in an aura-like situation you'd want to use Trauma (which will give your heals a better spread) while if you are blanketing the raid against bursty damage you'd like Val'anyr (since a chance for a shield will probably be more beneficial than the hot even if both are random).