I don't see why you'd ever give up Val'anyr for Trauma. Healing in the form of a shield will have a far higher effectiveness ratio than healing in the form of a HoT tick. Val'anyr adds 5% to our raw healing, but our raw healing is often anywhere from 50-70% overheal in ordinary situations. The added shields typically account for far more than 5% EH, since they don't "overheal" (expire) at nearly the same rate. A shield heals damage over an 8s window, a HoT tick overheals (typically) unless damage is taken immediately before it.

I think this is the main point, regardless of how much healing we gain from the procs, a shield is always going to be more useful for the survivability of a raid than a HoT ticking for ~200.

Well, not quite--Trauma (H) has over 200 more spellpower as well. The point is that the effective healing contributions from the two weapons are comparable, and shields are superior to heals in a number of ways.

As an aside, I never like the whole "small heals don't save lives" trope. Especially in the context of raid-wide blanketing against heavy damage, healing done is healing done. The same logic that's always justified the strength of our HoT's generally also applies to Trauma.

That's true. I didn't consider the fact, that especially in aura-fights any player at max hp also benefits from a shields, while a direct heal would only overheal.

Anyways, I'd really like to see some reliable numbers. Guess the only way is to log 10 man without any other shielders.

If those numbers are accurate, sticking with Valanyr is definitely the better choice. But as far as I know, the combat log parsers can only guess from whose shield the absorbs came from. That's why I'm a little skeptical about it.

Val'anyr's buff causes your heals to "shield the target absorbing damage equal to 15% of the amount healed.". I find it highly unlikely, given the 25-30% uptime of the buff, that the shields could make up 15% of your healing in any situation where it actually matters. I think it much more likely that you had so little damage coming in on the raid that shield (since they are used up first) are being inflated in value. What was your overhealing % from that parse?

Does anyone have any stats on the T10 4-PC bonus with regard to 10-man raiding? I raid primarily 10-man and I'm thinking of giving up the 4-pc bonus so I can get the better itemised haste non-set pieces instead of the three crit pieces from T10. It's harder reaching haste cap in 10-man gear and being able to use [Vestments of Spruce and Fir] over [Lasherweave Robes] would help.

My reasoning is that in fights where I need everyone Rejuve'd, they usually are and the jumps won't be a huge help. In fights where I don't need people RJ'd, it's largely a wasted proc. I could try to leave one or two people RJ free and force the jump, but I can imagine wanting the proc then not seeing it for 10+ seconds. The proc seems more suited for 25-man raiding where there will always be multiple players without your RJ on them. Can anyone relate their experiences of the 4-pc bonus with regard to 10-man raiding specifically?

When looking at your individual healing breakdown, it will show overhealing % per spell and overall in the final column.

Overall against the LK, you had 73.1% OH. 72.3% on the kill.

When checking my own recent parses, the best "ratio" I could find with a decently high Val'anyr % and lowest OH was Festergut 25N, with 57.1% OH and 13.7% done by Val'anyr. Most of the other fights with a high number from Val'anyr are as Eddyqw said - the shields are just sniping your own heals and inflating the % (in the realm of 70+% OH).

I'm pretty terrible at math, so I'm having a hard time determining what Val'anyr's actual worth is versus the new heroic weapons. I like the numbers it shows, but what everyone's saying about OH makes sense.

Unless you're running with RR Glyph it's not very useful in 10mans.

However, in fights where raid damage is light and you don't need to blanket the whole raid it will allow you to focus more time tank healing, with the odd proc or so going to the raid. Then again, if it's a fight where you don't need to blanket the raid the procs probably won't be doing much healing anyways.

So grab the RR glyph in 10mans. If you let a Rejuv drop off of someone (to SM or drop a Nourish or Regrowth a tank or whatever) there's a good chance a proc will pick up your slack.

Yea LK especially is infamous for having the shields just sniping small "heals" with the Infest mechanic; whereas something like BQL or Festergut will show the true value of the shields, as they're getting instantly eaten up every second.

(Thanks for explaining the overheal on WoL, I can't believe I just never looked to the right of the bar ><)

Also, I very much agree with Sekke, and would like to add that more times than not if I'm blanketing (in 10man) and let a few drop off due to focus healing on a tank or something, the 4pc procs it right back onto those members, its a great convenience if anything.

Yea, if you're missing WoA or moonkin/ret aura, I would probably recommend breaking 4pc and picking up the offpieces to cap your haste. I personally have both WoA/ret in my 10man group so that isn't a problem.