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Old 07/22/10, 7:52 PM   #76
Cluey
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Dragonblight
ChaosPhoenix you are just at a point in gearing where the differences are just very small, your test on one fight isn't enough to base anything on as it is simply about three minutes of combat. The tools, both Rawr and others, look at much more than a three minute sample on a random fight to provide you answers.

Bonemage I have no idea why you even brought [Mjolnir Runestone] into this as ChaosPhoenix doesn't have it and, given his character looks like an alt, probably won't ever have it. There is no need to complicate things especially in the simple answers thread.

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Old 08/13/10, 5:40 PM   #77
Thrones
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Hello, Tree question here

I am presently playing my tree primarily in 10 man raids, and often run without a paladin. This shuffles me into a tank healing roll fairly often, and I have some questions about Lifebloom.

Q: I've been assigned to heal a tank. What do I do?
A: Glyph Nourish. Make sure you have Empowered Touch (and Living Seed would also be nice). Keep Regrowth and Rejuvenation on the tank, periodically cast Lifebloom (but don't roll it), and spam Nourish in between. Use Swiftmend whenever he hangs at low HP. This isn't a great role for us, but you can get by if the damage isn't too high.

Here I am told not to roll it, but a 3 stack of lifebloom ticks for roughly 1300 outside of ICC, which isn't half badI can understand lifebloom is mana intensive and that not allowing it to bloom can cause issues, lets assume that for at least most of the fight this isn't an issue.

Is there any reason to let lifebloom fall, barring the need for a well timed burst heal?

Furthermore, in the event I roll it would it be wise to use the lifebloom glyph in order to alleviate some of the gcd capping tank healing incurs. Typically in a 10 man I roll Swiftmend/Nourish/Rapid Rejuv

EDIT: Had my numbers wrong, fail on my behalf.

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Old 08/17/10, 4:18 AM   #78
Ikkusa
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Silvermoon (EU)
Originally Posted by Thrones View Post
Is there any reason to let lifebloom fall, barring the need for a well timed burst heal?
The reason to let it fall is to get the inbuilt mana return, so stacking it to 3, let it fall off and stacking it again does not waste any of the increased mana cost from the initial cast. It requires a lot more gcd's this way to just maintain your 3xlb stack, so it depends on the fight if you can actually do it that way.

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Old 08/17/10, 11:38 AM   #79
CaseyTheRetard
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Originally Posted by Thrones View Post
Here I am told not to roll it, but a 3 stack of lifebloom ticks for roughly 1300 outside of ICC, which isn't half badI can understand lifebloom is mana intensive and that not allowing it to bloom can cause issues, lets assume that for at least most of the fight this isn't an issue.

Is there any reason to let lifebloom fall, barring the need for a well timed burst heal?

Furthermore, in the event I roll it would it be wise to use the lifebloom glyph in order to alleviate some of the gcd capping tank healing incurs. Typically in a 10 man I roll Swiftmend/Nourish/Rapid Rejuv
In terms of HPM, rolling Lifebloom is horribly inefficient. We put it up primarily for the boost to the Nourish glyph, otherwise it wouldn't really be worth casting at all. A fight where your mana can stand rolling Lifebloom is a fight that you greatly outgear.

Glyphing Lifebloom would be convenient, but not worth losing Swiftmend, Nourish or RR glyphs. Nourish and RR glyphs individually provide MUCH more HPS than a 3-stack Lifebloom, and Swiftmend glyph avoids removing your haste-capped Rejuve during burst damage periods when the tank really needs it most.

When the shit hits the fan and you just can't afford to spend a GCD to refresh Lifebloom, keep casting Nourish until it blooms and then refresh it, letting the bloom heal take the place of a Nourish in your casting sequence. That keeps you getting the Nourish glyph boost, which is affected by the presence of Lifebloom, and not the number of stacks.


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Old 10/06/10, 2:43 PM   #80
Kauthier
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Baelgun
Gift of the Earthmother

I've recently reached the Haste Cap for my Resto Druid, and when I went to respec I noticed no changes when I added points into Gift of the Earthmother.
If Lifebloom has no CD, how does this work?
Thank you.

*EDIT: Answered one of my questions.

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Old 10/07/10, 1:43 AM   #81
Ikkusa
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Originally Posted by Kauthier View Post
I've recently reached the Haste Cap for my Resto Druid, and when I went to respec I noticed no changes when I added points into Gift of the Earthmother.
If Lifebloom has no CD, how does this work?
It reduces the base cooldown of your lifebloom spell, this means the talent lowers the global cooldown triggered when casting lifebloom. Since you are already at the haste cap, the global cooldown remains at 1.0 seconds (it can't get below 1.0). The lifebloom related portion of the talent is aimed at PVP resto druids to lower the global cooldown of lifebloom since they are normally not at the haste cap.

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Old 10/14/10, 3:57 AM   #82
Lilija
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Dash macro

Before 4.0.1 I was using this macro for one buttong Cat->Dash. It goes like this

#showtooltip dash
/cast Cat Form(Shapeshift)
/cast Dash(Cat Form)
At the moment, the macro doesn't work. I get an error "Must be in Cat Form". It's not due to GCD for sure since after switching to Cat Dash is ready to use instantly as it was before. I suspect it might be due to new queueing.

Anyone knows if there is some way to make this macro work again (if it's even possible at all).

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Old 10/15/10, 1:57 AM   #83
Lightflower
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Dath'Remar
Has anyone had any success getting a display on Grid of your personal HoTs post 4.0.1 patch? I have the addon GridStatusHots (which always worked before) but it doesn't seem to be functioning.

On a lesser note, GridStatusManaBars and GridStatusRaidDebuffs also seem to be non-functional

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Old 10/15/10, 2:46 AM   #84
Rhy
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It is probably a problem with the plug-ins. So far I saw that StatusHots and Grit itself were updated, but neither StatusCornerIcons nor StatusSideIcons was updated. At least I couldn't get them to work or to stop throwing errors at me. For the hots, I used to use StatusCornerText, if you haven't, maybe give it a go. However, I am sure it has not been updated for a long time now too. Maybe it is just as broken as the other two.

If there are no other plug-ins that I am missing (tbh I am not really that familiar with Grid and the other addons for it) your best bet would be to use another addon or to just wait for the updates.

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Old 10/15/10, 3:02 AM   #85
Neosin
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Barthilas
I believe that the plugins to grid that you mentioned arent working as they rely on ace2. WHich is no longer part of the grid build.
Simply install the ace2 lib/app yourself, and you should see your grid plugins function.

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Old 10/15/10, 7:33 AM   #86
Tronn
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Eredar (EU)
I play Moonkin and ever since relied on CD display addons. I found the best one in TellMeWhen (needtoknow is similar, but not as nice at all), but it is broken in 4.0.1, as well as Elkano's Buff Bars (my former Tree of Life HoT tracker).
1.) I've tried Power Auras Classic some time ago and deleted it because of too many options. I installed it yesterday once more and found my judgement reassured.
2.) At first glance, Class Timers seemed to be too highly configurable as well, unfortunately.
3.) I already use CoolLine Cooldowns, but it's not the first visualization I look at, so I'd like to have something bigger and with icons.

So my question here is - what do you use (instead)? Anything out there quite simple and working in 4.0?

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Old 10/15/10, 11:47 AM   #87
Lilija
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Originally Posted by Tronn View Post
I play Moonkin and ever since relied on CD display addons. I found the best one in TellMeWhen (needtoknow is similar, but not as nice at all), but it is broken in 4.0.1, as well as Elkano's Buff Bars (my former Tree of Life HoT tracker).
1.) I've tried Power Auras Classic some time ago and deleted it because of too many options. I installed it yesterday once more and found my judgement reassured.
2.) At first glance, Class Timers seemed to be too highly configurable as well, unfortunately.
3.) I already use CoolLine Cooldowns, but it's not the first visualization I look at, so I'd like to have something bigger and with icons.

So my question here is - what do you use (instead)? Anything out there quite simple and working in 4.0?
I use OmniCC (shows CD on the skill) but also Forte Xorcist (hope I didn't mispell). However, since my fps got up with the new patch I went back to Power Auras as well.

As for CDs there is also an addon called Sexy Cooldowns but I have never really used it much. Tho there are people who like it. Can't confirm if it's working in 4.0.

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Old 10/15/10, 4:17 PM   #88
mattyl83
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Night Elf Druid
 
Darkspear
(Feral Cat)What is the base crit cap with no hit and no exp?
Are there any other raid buffs that buff crit other than the 5%?

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Old 10/16/10, 6:47 PM   #89
Blabl
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Executus (EU)
Did some searching but I can't find anywhere if Blizzard changed Growl to be melee-hit based now, or if it still goes by spell-hit.

Can anyone help me out with this?

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Old 10/16/10, 9:40 PM   #90
Protagonist
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Stormreaver (EU)
Originally Posted by Blabl View Post
I can't find anywhere if Blizzard changed Growl to be melee-hit based now, or if it still goes by spell-hit.
Since the growl glyph was removed and I remember there being talk about taunt miss mechanics being changed, I did some testing. As a naked, unbuffed level 80 night elf bear (0 hit rating) I did not miss a single growl out of around 200 against the Heroic Training Dummy in Darnassus. There are similar results for taunt being reported by warriors.

It appears to be the case currently that growl either cannot miss or has 100% hit chance against boss-level mobs.

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Old 10/18/10, 4:45 PM   #91
Yllidan
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Krag'jin (EU)
Whats the cap for hit rating against bosses in Cataclysm Beta?

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Old 10/18/10, 7:27 PM   #92
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Links: Moonkin Resto WoWMath Twitter YouTube
Please don't PM requests for advice on UI or specific gear choices.

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Old 10/18/10, 9:45 PM   #93
Asakura
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Edit: Nevermind, question answered.

Last edited by Asakura : 10/19/10 at 12:46 AM.

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Old 10/22/10, 7:35 AM   #94
Talep
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Tauren Druid
 
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Hi, I post this question here in order not to disturb the topic of Astryliyan (Cataclysm Bear Theorycraft ), but the numbers in it are only for Cataclysm ? Because I ran some tests on live servers ( 4.0 ) and they didn't match with what he gave.

And my second question is, where can I find the same topic for 4.0 ? Specially about the threat bonus of Lacerate which is quite difficult to have in game.

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Old 10/23/10, 11:43 AM   #95
Blakhoof
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Sentinels
For bears in 4.0.1, does anyone have a simple list kicking around of the priority order for stats and what some of the caps may be, aka Stam>agi>mastery type of thing

I had it all figured out ok, but now with all the changes and the addition of reforging it seems a lot more complicated.

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Old 10/28/10, 1:06 PM   #96
Solarflash
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Originally Posted by Blakhoof View Post
For bears in 4.0.1, does anyone have a simple list kicking around of the priority order for stats and what some of the caps may be, aka Stam>agi>mastery type of thing

I had it all figured out ok, but now with all the changes and the addition of reforging it seems a lot more complicated.
You can find 4.0.1 Bear info in the forum thread below labeled "[WOTLK 4.0] Bear Discussion" As for most ferals, it's not as easy as a simple stat priority. The weight you give to each stat really depends on the content you intend to run and the stats your gear is already providing. General concensus for reforging, as far as I have seen, is to move haste into mastery when you can (Assuming certain caps are already reached, like hit/expertise)

EDIT: Adding the link to the above mentioned thread. Sorry for the long URL, I am still familarizing myself with EJ tags
[WOTLK 4.0] Bear Discussion

Last edited by Solarflash : 10/29/10 at 11:58 AM. Reason: Adding a link to the referenced thread

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Old 10/29/10, 10:22 AM   #97
MÃ nze
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Blackhand (EU)
Hi, quick question about OOC. Is it a bug, that its not consumed if you cast hurricane? The wording implies that it should: "cost of your next cast-time damaging or healing spell or offensive feral ability by 100%" I could imagine that it pretty sucks on fights like halion hc, where your actually need to use hurricane very often during the fight and only way to do it and not to go oom as moonkin was using the ooc proc.

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Old 11/06/10, 8:34 PM   #98
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Originally Posted by M� nze View Post
Hi, quick question about OOC. Is it a bug, that its not consumed if you cast hurricane? The wording implies that it should: "cost of your next cast-time damaging or healing spell or offensive feral ability by 100%" I could imagine that it pretty sucks on fights like halion hc, where your actually need to use hurricane very often during the fight and only way to do it and not to go oom as moonkin was using the ooc proc.

Don't take my word on it, but (by the description you have given) this would not necessarily apply to hurricane. The reason for this is that hurricane is a channel spell, and not a cast-time spell (ex. Healing Touch). For instance, when you recieve OOC and use a heal, it is casted instantly. Casting hurricane instantly might be more hilarious then it would be beneficial.

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Old 11/09/10, 5:18 PM   #99
Earwin
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Aerie Peak
In regards to Resto in CATA:

It's pretty much been established that especially in 25mans, mastery is fairly unattractive. My question is simply, what is the new stat priority? As it is now, we essentially ensure we have 1016 haste and stack int.

In cata, we still stack int as the primary stat will always be better than gemming pure haste/crit, but when reforging should be be getting all haste or crit? I know that haste is a lot better when you reach the breakpoints (915 for extra RJ, 12xx for extra LB, but is it worth obtaining those breakpoints in lue of crit?)

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Old 11/10/10, 11:08 PM   #100
taliesin3
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Rexxar
Quick resto question about looking at a WoL parse - what do each of the three "Rejuvenation" spells stand for? I am guessing they are the 1) actual ability, 2) the t10 proc, and 3) the initial heal that each provides, but I'm not certain.

The parse is here: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

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