ANy FF (wether normal, improved or feral) will give you the 3% crit boost as long as you have the talent. What you both noticed was simply each one's FF being overwritten by the other, so if there's more than one moonkin just decide who puts it up beforehand.

The battle between engineering and any other SP profession has never ever been mathed out really well that I have seen. In theory it sounds great to have that extra haste for a large portion of lunar eclipses but it also adds another "use" effect to keep track of among other things.

I'm not an engy myself but I have definitely given a fair amount of thought to switching my leather working to Engy but haven't found enough convincing reason to do so. With SO SO many other things going on in fights these days I find myself uninterested in having something else to track. A pure SP buff is never a bad thing where as a mis-click or key press could potentially waste a proc if you are in any portion of your rotation that is casting wrath where as the SP scales just as well for wrath or starfire. To go with this I'm fairly certain that Lunar Eclipse + Heroism + speed pot + gloves use would put you under the GCD for starfires, again wasting some of that effect for 0 gain. I know personally I'm already at a 1.2sec starfire cast with speed + hero so..

Anyway, that's just my personal view backed up with 0 math. I would like to see this particular discussion continued though as it is something I do find myself coming back to fairly regularly to debate about with myself. =)

I have tried to establish the minimum value of the proc on the engineering gloves. I am mostly 264 geared, with relatively low haste, 700ish, and about 1120 crit. Using Wrathcalcs I calculated that the benefit of 340 haste for 12 seconds during Lunar Eclipse is about 10500 damage. I am not taking into account the benefit during a Bloodlusted Lunar, which given my relatively low haste level would still offer additional benefit even when factoring in a potential Potion of Speed. Therefore my estimate of 10500 damage per proc is modest.

Next we have to determine the average amount of procs in a certain time frame. Given the length of the total Eclipse cycle we have to wait on average about 20 seconds after the proc comes of CD before we can use it during a Lunar Eclipse. Off course you also have to take into account non-dps periods due to for example excessive movement, but given that you control the proc and if you know the fight pretty well, then you won't be likely to waste procs and can actually get a relatively better usage out of the proc. Moreover, you start with the proc off CD, which has always an positive effect on the relative up-time per fight. Therefore I belief that 1 proc per 80 seconds is also modest.

The benefit is then: 10500/80=131.25 dps.

The value of 1 Spellpower is roughly 2 dps according to Wrathcalcs (depends on gear off course), which implies that the minimum benefit of the proc is 65.6 SP.

Edit:
Now let us consider the difference between enchanting and engineering given that I value the proc at 65.6 SP and that I use Tuskar's Vitality as enchant on my boots.
Spellpower: -46 rings, -28 gloves + 27 cloak + 65.6 proc = +18.6 Sp
Haste: -23 cloak
Crit: +24 boots

I am above the soft crit and haste cap and therefore crit and haste are quite close in value. Let's say 24 crit = 23 haste, then I gain 18.6 Sp, where I valued the proc quite modestly.
It is a bit harder to compare the speed boost from the Engineering with the static boost from the Tuskar enchant, but I don't think that the static boost will be sufficient to make Enchanting more attractive than Engineering.

I think you're making it more complicated than it is really. Keybind Starfire with a macro that holding shift uses gloves and casts Starfire together (for me E is Starfire, Shift-E is Gloves&Starfire). Form a habit of holding shift for the start of Lunar Eclipses (if gloves are not off CD the macro will just cast Starfire) and you are unlikely to ever have to consciously think of it again.

I was wondering if there was any advice on how to cyclone targets during DeathWispher HM.

At the moment I am clicking the hostile target and pressing a key bind. I would absolute love a raid frame mouse bind. I use Vuhdo for raid frames and their mouse binds for "hostile" targets isn't working on the mind controlled targets.

I don't know if the grid/clique combo has the capability to distinguish between friendly and hostile. Cause I still want to use my left mouse button to cast a nourish on the friendly but on a hositle target the left mouse button would cast cyclone.

If that can't be done, I was thinking about using a mouse over macro instead of the mouse-click-target-plus-key-bind for faster reactions.

Would this work? (Copied from another thread)
#showtooltip Cyclone
/cast [target=mouseover,exists] [] Cyclone

Anyone have experience with this? Or have any better ideas for fast target and casting of MCed targets?

My CC's are bound to mouseovers. I use 'harm' instead of 'exists', but the mouseover macro should be fine.

I don't know if a previously friendly VuhDo cell works as a harmful cell during MC. I would assume that it does, but, I haven't tested it.

There might be some issue with the out-of-range logic. I'm pretty sure VuhDo uses HT for its in-range detection. I don't know what (if anything) it uses for hostile in-range detection, but Cyclone's range is short compared to most of our spells. However, I don't think VuhDo's in-range logic influences target=mouseover logic.

For Grid, you can try adding the debuff put on the player when they're MC'd then using the mouseover Cyclone macro to cast it on them.

I use Decursive (ctrl-click).

Funny, I always just clicked on the nameplate and cast it. I can see how modifying one of my Resto clickcast macros to cast Cyclone on [harm] would be faster though.

I am not really for downloading and adding more layers of addons with other things is the tools I currently have are sufficient. I can decurse and cure poison via Vuhdo so using decurse for just cyclone... I am not thrilled about that solution.

I am unfamiliar with grid/clique but I have seen basic tutorial vids. Would I need some sort of grid addon for hostile targets? I know there are a lot of die hard grid fans but my biggest reason against it is our grid users in raid are constantly saying "hold on let me adjust grid or load some grid addon". Grid is powerful but I am reluctant to go that route unless I need to =/

Arawethion gave me an idea though. I am going to try a nourish/cyclone macro for Vuhdo on mouse click and get rid of the cyclone hostile setting.

#showtooltip
/cast [harm] Cyclone; Nourish (thanks Erdluf for correcting my 'exists' error)

I would love it cause as dps this won't have me drop my dps target especially during the final phase.

Replace herbalism with a raiding profession.

Delaying/pausing your rotation for a bloodlust in the middle of the fight will probably cause you to loose enough dps beforehand to just be able to make it up during the actual uptime. You should talk to your raid leader about using it early when everyone's cooldowns are available. Then it becomes easy to ensure you get 2 lunars during it. This also lets you use a secondary lust/hero for when treants are up again, which also coincides with shadow priests' shadow fiend.