Remember that these are the normal versions of these items. I'm sure that the heroic versions of the Wrists and Back will be BIS. The trinket is interesting, but I would prefer something that was more Spell power focused.

guess this means Loop of endless labyrinth will become BiS aswell then, leaving out Lady bracers.

Either that or :

1. Amulet of the Silent Eulogy and Ring of Rapid Ascent

vs.

2. Blood Queen's Crimson Choker and Loop of the Endless Labyrinth

adds up to be a difference of (1.) 68 crit and 8 hit vs. (2.) 70 haste.

Am I wrong to assume that for alliance with a draenei, plaguebringers stained pants/tier gloves/exalted ring gets you to hit cap...which means those 3 plus rapid ascent/BQ crimson choker/new bracers will be BiS, also spirit-less setup. Potentially, this could work for horde as well with a few hit gems.

In regards to the new items in the Ruby Sanctum, I think its fair to assume that the wrists will be a pure normal > heroic upgrade as we see in ICC. This would make them BIS, compared to heroic Brittle Bracers, IF we can cover the hit somewhere else. In my BIS list* (which is most likely very similar to others), I will have 291 hit rating - 28 above the hit cap for hordes. Allies with a draenei around can cover their hit cap with heroic tier 10 gloves and legs, plus the rep ring.

If I remove the heroic Lady's Brittle Bracers, I'll be 24 hit rating under the cap - just under 1% chance to hit. Now, I'm considering if it would be worth it to just cover it with a hit gem, and let that be it - we would still be slightly below the hit cap, but I've had 260 hit rating for quite a while, and rarely get to grumble over missed spells. If we just use a yellow socket for a pure +hit gem, all we lose is 12 SP and 10 haste, but we get to put on (heroic?) bracers with crit/haste on them, and a lot of spell power, more than we can find on any other bracer currently ingame.

So I'm leaning towards just replacing a gem with pure hit. The alternative is to get hit on a another ring or neckpiece. The cloak is not an option, because we would probably want the heroic version of the caster cloak. Replacing Ring of Rapic Ascent or the Blood Queens Crimson Choker would mean a loss in either crit or haste, and I would go up around the 292. So the question is really, do we want to sacrifice a whole stat on an item, and get hit over our cap, or do we accept losing an ametrine and being 4 hit rating under the cap?

* You'll notice I left out the heroic Royal Scepter. I suppose my BIS list is realistic on this regard.

If you're going to do this you're better off replacing two red with two yellow, as it'll give you 24 spell power and 20 hit rather than a red and yellow which give 23 spell power and 20 hit. It's not much but every little counts.

Your other options are:

• Enchant Weapon - Accuracy - Spell - World of Warcraft if you're using a one handed weapon (as armory shows you to be using), which would give you almost the perfect level of hit required but requires sacrificing a lot of spell power (i.e. 63 spell power for 25hit/25crit compared to the gem option which is 12sp per 10 hit);
• using a +hit dragon eye (which takes you far over the cap and sacrifices more sp then individual gem replacement); or
• reworking other pieces of gear as you've discussed.

Is there a reason why people don't consider using [Gunship Captain's Mittens] they seem to be better than [Sanctified Lasherweave Gloves]?

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I'm using the mittens. My first 3 tokens would go to the 3 big pieces for both 264 + 277. The offset 277 hands dropped before I even had 264 tier so they were a fantastic upgrade for me.

They do however have a little less hit than the tier ones, which might put some people off. Others will be trying to stack crit. And of course some people are using other offset pieces, likely the crafted legs or Festergut ones.

Here are my two cents on the gloves vs. pants debate.

With plaguebringer's stained pants, 277 tier gloves, exalted ring, you reach draenei hit cap exactly, 237.

The other setup leaves you at 231 hit.

Assuming you would gem Gunship Mittens SP/spirit and SP for the socket bonus, and the tier legs SP and either SP/haste or SP/crit, the total value of these two together are:

419 SP, 122 crit, 100 haste, 180 hit, 10 spirit

The other setup, assuming 23 SP in gloves for tier, and 3 23 SP gems in Plaguebringer's stained pants would yield:

432 SP, 90 crit, 116 haste, 186 hit, 0 spirit

That means, the difference in using Plaguebringer's and tier gloves over gunship captain's and tier legs is

+13 SP, +16 haste, +6 hit, -32 crit, -10 spirit. This hit is necessary to reach hit cap for alliance, so if you are going to use the opposite, you would likely sacrifice a yellow gem to gem hit, which means you'd likely go further behind in haste or give up some lead in crit.

The difference is incredibly small, but I think tier gloves and plaguebringer's win out by a narrow margin.

crit !> haste

at least not on my gear level

They are not very far apart but I think the biggest reason is that its better to skimp on gloves (by using tierones) and then splurge on the festergut pants.

Though, considering the availability of tier-tokens it might not be a bad idea, the 277 gloves are a lot better then the tier 264 ones.

Final setup though I'd go for legs from fester and tiergloves

how sure are you on these numbers?
I thought that for rotation wise and languish stacking that crit would have been better even post both soft caps. I do however also believe that solar eclipse has become stronger than lunar because of the large amount of crit we are running around with nowadays. plus, it seems that bosses resist more starfire dmg than wrath.
EDIT: Just one more question, how much haste is needed before you can actually get an extra SF during lunar? has anyone got numbers on this?