That is not the case if you just blindingly macro it to other abilities. Which is what I am pointing out.

The 4t12 bonus is very simple for BM, we simply ignore whether it is procced. We use KC on CD (or as close to as possible) and we dump focus with AS. Best case scenario (spending the proc on KS) lands us 2 free AS. Worst case scenario (using the proc on AS) lands us 1 free AS. Neither is a dps loss, as AS will do more damage (and faster) than the CoS we would have to replace it with to have enough focus for the next KC, meaning BM is the spec that has the most benefit from the proc (despite it being very variable).
Of course, if you won't focus overflow before KC comes off CD and have the presence of mind to spot it, you can up your dps by another free AS by spending it on KC, but if you focus overflow by CoS'ing the benefit of waiting is lost, especially since the proc has no ICD so you risk wasting a proc if it reprocs (or would have reprocced).

One more thing to note on AoE is that Chimaeras can move while channeling Froststorm Breath whereas a Worm with Burrow Attack cannot. So if a fight has adds that might have to be moved, a Chimaera could be better (if a lot of movement is required, otherwise follow the usual Chimaera vs Worm argument). Also worth noting is that Worms can spec into Thunderstomp at the risk of generating additional threat, but it can help in between burrows (however, it costs 20 focus and can make it difficult to save focus for the next Burrow Attack; suggestion would be to keep it off auto and manually use it when the pet has enough focus)

Hello, I'd like some opinion on the manual activation of the Ferocity pet ability Rabid in order to time it's activation exactly 10 seconds before Bestial Wrath, so that your pet will have the buff for a full 10 seconds coinciding with BW at maximum possible stacks of the attack power buff.

I suppose my question is, how does this affect overall Rabid/BW uptime (ie: having Rabid off CD for a few seconds to wait for BW or time lost due to mistakes in Rabid cd monitoring) VS the actual melee and Kill Command damage gained from having anywhere from 15-25% increased AP for your pet during BW?


*Generally what I've been doing is starting the fight by manually activating Rabid, (usually activating Blood Fury or on use trinkets somewhere in here depending on proc duration), then 10 sec after Rabid has been up, pop BW and Call of the Wild.

From here on out in the fight the CDs of Rabid and BW line up fairly nicely if you are attentive to rabid's short CD.

EDIT::

To further clarify,

The reason I wouldn't want to start with manual activation then move it to auto is because the cooldowns don't quite line up perfectly, and i think the 15-25% attack power from rabid is best utilized during BW.

With Bestial Wrath having a 70 sec CD and Rabid having a 31.5 second Cd, this would mean that Rabid would be delayed about 7 seconds every OTHER time after the first (Due to BW being activated exactly 10 second after Rabid, it's CD would come up at the 1'20" mark while Rabid will be coming back up for the second time at 1'03")

Another way of looking at it, is that you'd have 3.5 seconds of leeway every time Rabid comes off CD to reactivate it, and it should line up with a BW perfectly.

Using this strat, you never lose out on a BW over the course of a fight, and at worst you drop a Rabid maybe 2 if you're lazy with your activation and skip one.

EDIT 2:: I forgot that Kill Command scales by our attack power and not our pets. It's likely then that it's a very minimal gain to have these CDs always lined up verses possibly losing a Rabid depending on fight length since the only gain during BW would be pet melee (and their specials) damage.

I'm not seeing any specific logs of any BM hunters above 40k using a Silithid. Top I'm seeing is an asian (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Korean) at just over 52k, using a Silithid. I think this particular parse is suffering from double-logging, but that may not be the case, as his focus gains from Roar of Recovery are consistent with the fight duration and cooldown. (2 minutes as BM, 30 focus per cast, 4m 17s fight duration).

EDIT: I recall something about this now. Taming Yauj then killing Vem would result in Yauj getting the buff, but only have a 10 minute duration, hence the need for multiple Silithids in the second-place hunter's stable.

Only thing I can think of is perhaps taming Yauj after Vem dies doesn't wipe the enrage buff? The buff Vengeance - Spell - World of Warcraft could explain why each pet ability hits about twice as hard than normal, and why standard melee attacks are the majority of pet damage done. The hunter's damage done isn't anomalous, otherwise.

Hmm that sounds very plausible Neruse. Knowing how time consuming taming normal mobs with their appearance buff is, I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to tame a raid boss like that. If the same rules apply. And not only that but the more I think about it the more sense that actually makes. Some of the hunters have multiple Silithid, considering some pets lose their appearance buff when they die. I'm guessing Vem is one of them.

It's also worth noting that he didn't actually say that. He said (paraphrase) that ideally they want the solution [to not being able to use exotic pets unless specced into BM] to be for BM dps to be high enough so that there wouldn't be a need to switch specs for dps purposes, but notwithstanding that, in a lot of cases BM dps was "pretty good."

This may theoreticaly be true but I tried BM a few minutes ago on a dummy with a FF/CS macro and sometimes I get 12% haste and sometimes 15% haste when only pushing this macro with no other shots.
Ideas why this might happen? (I'm hitcapped of course).

If you have the buff the pet provides on autocast (or growl) it eats a global cooldown of your pet to cast it. So instead of making 15 seconds for 5 stacks your pet needs 16 instead.

Pretty much that is the general opinion regarding it. You can get much closer to 100% uptime via macroing it into shots, but the odds are you're going to be popping it on 12% haste buff and occasionall you might get even less than that and that just gets worse the minute you get into any fight like lets say Staghelm where your pet is having to move a lot to stay on its target. So yeah just unmacro it and accept those moments when you're either mid-shot when it procs or have to wait 2-3 seconds after the CD ends for your pet to reach full frenzy stacks.